Feel a bit sad reading this. I’m sorry you’ve felt alienated by EA and are unsure about how you fit in.
Re: your last sentence: you’re far from alone in feeling this way. I cannot recommend Luisa Rodriguez’s 80000 Hours article about imposter syndrome highly enough.
I don’t think super high intelligence, or Ivy league degrees, are a requirement for engaging with EA. But setting aside that question, I do think there are lots of ways to engage that aren’t, like, “do complicated AI alignment math”. Organizations need many people and skills other than researchers to run well. And I think there are many ways to express EA values outside of your career, e.g. by donating, voting for political candidates who focus on important issues, and leading by example in your personal life and relationships.
I generally agree with your comment but I want to point out that for a person who does not feel like their achievements are “objectively” exceptionally impressive Luisa’s article can also come across as intimidating: “if a person who achieved all of this still thinks they are not good enough, then what about me?”
I think Olivia’s post is especially valuable because she dared to post even when she does not have a list of achievements that would immediately convince readers that her insecurity/worry is all in her head. It is very relatable to a lot of folks (for example me) and I think she has been really brave to speak up about this!
I agree. I would actually go further and say that bringing imposter syndrome into it is potentially unhelpful, as it’s in some ways the opposite issue—imposter syndrome is about when you are as smart/competent/well-suited to a role as your peers, but have a mistaken belief that you aren’t. What Olivia’s talking about is actual differences between people that aren’t just imagined due to worry. I could see it come off as patronising/out-of-touch to some, although I know it was meant well.
Thank you for this comment and the article recommendation, I will definitely be checking it out. And thank you for highlighting the other ways to get involved, I could definitely do a bit more thinking about the options available to me, as I’m sure I can find my place somewhere!!
Feel a bit sad reading this. I’m sorry you’ve felt alienated by EA and are unsure about how you fit in.
Re: your last sentence: you’re far from alone in feeling this way. I cannot recommend Luisa Rodriguez’s 80000 Hours article about imposter syndrome highly enough.
I don’t think super high intelligence, or Ivy league degrees, are a requirement for engaging with EA. But setting aside that question, I do think there are lots of ways to engage that aren’t, like, “do complicated AI alignment math”. Organizations need many people and skills other than researchers to run well. And I think there are many ways to express EA values outside of your career, e.g. by donating, voting for political candidates who focus on important issues, and leading by example in your personal life and relationships.
I generally agree with your comment but I want to point out that for a person who does not feel like their achievements are “objectively” exceptionally impressive Luisa’s article can also come across as intimidating: “if a person who achieved all of this still thinks they are not good enough, then what about me?”
I think Olivia’s post is especially valuable because she dared to post even when she does not have a list of achievements that would immediately convince readers that her insecurity/worry is all in her head. It is very relatable to a lot of folks (for example me) and I think she has been really brave to speak up about this!
I agree. I would actually go further and say that bringing imposter syndrome into it is potentially unhelpful, as it’s in some ways the opposite issue—imposter syndrome is about when you are as smart/competent/well-suited to a role as your peers, but have a mistaken belief that you aren’t. What Olivia’s talking about is actual differences between people that aren’t just imagined due to worry. I could see it come off as patronising/out-of-touch to some, although I know it was meant well.
Thank you for this comment and the article recommendation, I will definitely be checking it out. And thank you for highlighting the other ways to get involved, I could definitely do a bit more thinking about the options available to me, as I’m sure I can find my place somewhere!!