I’m working on the notion of cultural change concerning the animal issue. It seems to me that you don’t address this point in your reflections, and if I’m not mistaken, OP doesn’t fund any cultural struggle organizations.
However, it seems to me extremely difficult to achieve the profound advances demanded by the situation for farmed or fished animals without challenging the extreme speciesist ideology of our civilization. And if we consider the fate of wild animals, the prospects are dizzying: they are infinitely numerous, and their massively terrible situation (cf. https://wildanimalsuffering.org/) has persisted since sentience appeared on Earth, and could continue for another 600 million years if we do nothing. We could almost call it an S-risk, except it’s not a risk, it’s a reality that has always existed and could last forever. So there’s a lot at stake if humans can help them one day. But that seems hard to imagine unless we move toward a sentientist, non-speciesist civilization, an orientation we can hardly imagine without a major cultural revolution.
It therefore seems to me very important, not to say crucial, both from the medium-term perspective of abolishing animal exploitation, and from the long-term perspective of supporting sentient beings on the planet, to work towards structuring and developing a large-scale pro-sentient cultural effort (on the scale of, for example, the Enlightenment philosophers in the 18th century or the French anticlericals in the 19th century).
If we consider that the suffering involved is almost infinite, it seems to me that cultural struggle should be given greater importance (yes, I know that such an argument is hardly discriminatory and could just as well be used to promote veganism, for example! I’d like to make it clear that I want to distinguish cultural struggle from individual education or awareness-raising alone, also for reasons of effectiveness, since the former plays out on a societal scale and relies on methods that are not generally the same. More on this distinction here).
Anyway, my question is: are you and OP also thinking about this issue, and if so, what conclusions are you coming to, and by what means? If you don’t see sufficient interest in directing significant sums towards this type of intervention, why not?
Thanks for the question. I agree that cultural change is important, both for farmed and wild animals. I’m actually thinking about writing a future newsletter on the topic.
Our challenge funding in this area has been identifying funding opportunities that seem likely to influence cultural change on a large scale. As you allude to, it’s not clear that a lot of our movement’s past efforts at education and awareness-raising have been effective in this goal. And I’m not clear that past movements have achieved this absent a huge organic grassroots movement (civil rights) or huge funding (anti-tobacco) or both (climate change).
What sorts of interventions do you have in mind? And do you see any examples of past success at cultural change in our movement? It’s obviously much easier to scale up successful approaches than to hope for the success of untested ones.
I have in mind several different examples of cultural strategies that are well known in France, but probably less so (or not at all) in the US.
- One very effective cultural strategy is that of Paris Animaux Zoopolis / Projet Animaux Zoopolis (https://zoopolis.fr), which deals with wild animals (not RWAS) and liminal animals, but also recreational fishing and farmed fish for restocking rivers, and which, by changing the public’s image of animals (e.g. rats), undoubtedly has a general cultural impact that changes the public’s view of animals. PAZ uses the cultural (media) impact of its battles to put pressure on political figures (mayors, MPs) and achieve greater cultural effectiveness or even new laws (its other objective): I’ve written a description of the work of this association, and how it uses cultural struggle very effectively to bring about concrete, sometimes legislative changes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cj2w9xd9vNjNBGuTpe_WNjIi816E_2roIx_FnK6cvug/edit
- A cultural strategy that would be more effective if it had a bit more funding: the organisation of the World Days for the End of Fishing (and Fish Farming: https://end-of-fishing.org) and for the End of Speciesism (https://end-of-speciesism. org), in which about a hundred organisations from all five continents participate each year (Africa is still poorly represented), and whose aim is to penetrate the culture of the animal advocacy movement by proposing that it take part in these World Days and that once a year (while waiting for something better!) it adopt a discourse centred either on the denunciation of speciesism or on the question of aquatic animals (fish, shrimps), elements that the movement hardly takes into account spontaneously. The strategy is cost-effective (one full-time staff member can reach two times a year hundreds of organisations, some of which will then carry out campaigns), but suffers from its limitations: one full-time staff member can’t organise each year more than two days of action, nor can he or she better monitor and advise the organisations. The ideal situation would be to organise real campaigns throughout the year, or over two weeks, etc. In short, to have a full-time worker more. See more here: https://end-of-fishing.org/en/theory-of-change/ https://end-of-fishing.org/en/plans/ https://end-of-fishing.org/en/kpis/
- One cultural and community-building strategy is the Réseau Sentience (Sentience Network), a network of student associations focused on challenging speciesism, promoting sentientism and effective altruism, and vegetalizing university canteens. It currently exists in France, but it would like to export it to the US, India and elsewhere. The network is now run by a small team, and each local branch is autonomous but linked to the network and run by students on a volunteer basis (and the branches are to some extent funded by their universities!) The number of actions carried out is significant, the aim is to occupy cultural space, and many students train as activists and then remain part of the movement, either joining existing organizations or creating new initiatives. See its Theory of Change: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tpaIfaUrG_7Wyach3O64iYE1fJnai-pgadyyswiXksw/edit
There are other examples, of course, such as annual meetings that are important for the movement itself, magazines and so on.
I think the work done by organizations like Animal Think Tank or Animal Ask, or Social Change Lab, is also very important, in terms of research into cultural change (often linked to political struggles and insitutional change).
Hi Lewis, and thanks for organizing this AMA,
I’m working on the notion of cultural change concerning the animal issue. It seems to me that you don’t address this point in your reflections, and if I’m not mistaken, OP doesn’t fund any cultural struggle organizations.
However, it seems to me extremely difficult to achieve the profound advances demanded by the situation for farmed or fished animals without challenging the extreme speciesist ideology of our civilization. And if we consider the fate of wild animals, the prospects are dizzying: they are infinitely numerous, and their massively terrible situation (cf. https://wildanimalsuffering.org/) has persisted since sentience appeared on Earth, and could continue for another 600 million years if we do nothing. We could almost call it an S-risk, except it’s not a risk, it’s a reality that has always existed and could last forever. So there’s a lot at stake if humans can help them one day. But that seems hard to imagine unless we move toward a sentientist, non-speciesist civilization, an orientation we can hardly imagine without a major cultural revolution.
It therefore seems to me very important, not to say crucial, both from the medium-term perspective of abolishing animal exploitation, and from the long-term perspective of supporting sentient beings on the planet, to work towards structuring and developing a large-scale pro-sentient cultural effort (on the scale of, for example, the Enlightenment philosophers in the 18th century or the French anticlericals in the 19th century).
If we consider that the suffering involved is almost infinite, it seems to me that cultural struggle should be given greater importance (yes, I know that such an argument is hardly discriminatory and could just as well be used to promote veganism, for example! I’d like to make it clear that I want to distinguish cultural struggle from individual education or awareness-raising alone, also for reasons of effectiveness, since the former plays out on a societal scale and relies on methods that are not generally the same. More on this distinction here).
Anyway, my question is: are you and OP also thinking about this issue, and if so, what conclusions are you coming to, and by what means? If you don’t see sufficient interest in directing significant sums towards this type of intervention, why not?
Thanks for the question. I agree that cultural change is important, both for farmed and wild animals. I’m actually thinking about writing a future newsletter on the topic.
Our challenge funding in this area has been identifying funding opportunities that seem likely to influence cultural change on a large scale. As you allude to, it’s not clear that a lot of our movement’s past efforts at education and awareness-raising have been effective in this goal. And I’m not clear that past movements have achieved this absent a huge organic grassroots movement (civil rights) or huge funding (anti-tobacco) or both (climate change).
What sorts of interventions do you have in mind? And do you see any examples of past success at cultural change in our movement? It’s obviously much easier to scale up successful approaches than to hope for the success of untested ones.
I have in mind several different examples of cultural strategies that are well known in France, but probably less so (or not at all) in the US.
- One very effective cultural strategy is that of Paris Animaux Zoopolis / Projet Animaux Zoopolis (https://zoopolis.fr), which deals with wild animals (not RWAS) and liminal animals, but also recreational fishing and farmed fish for restocking rivers, and which, by changing the public’s image of animals (e.g. rats), undoubtedly has a general cultural impact that changes the public’s view of animals. PAZ uses the cultural (media) impact of its battles to put pressure on political figures (mayors, MPs) and achieve greater cultural effectiveness or even new laws (its other objective): I’ve written a description of the work of this association, and how it uses cultural struggle very effectively to bring about concrete, sometimes legislative changes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cj2w9xd9vNjNBGuTpe_WNjIi816E_2roIx_FnK6cvug/edit
- A cultural strategy that would be more effective if it had a bit more funding: the organisation of the World Days for the End of Fishing (and Fish Farming: https://end-of-fishing.org) and for the End of Speciesism (https://end-of-speciesism. org), in which about a hundred organisations from all five continents participate each year (Africa is still poorly represented), and whose aim is to penetrate the culture of the animal advocacy movement by proposing that it take part in these World Days and that once a year (while waiting for something better!) it adopt a discourse centred either on the denunciation of speciesism or on the question of aquatic animals (fish, shrimps), elements that the movement hardly takes into account spontaneously. The strategy is cost-effective (one full-time staff member can reach two times a year hundreds of organisations, some of which will then carry out campaigns), but suffers from its limitations: one full-time staff member can’t organise each year more than two days of action, nor can he or she better monitor and advise the organisations. The ideal situation would be to organise real campaigns throughout the year, or over two weeks, etc. In short, to have a full-time worker more. See more here:
https://end-of-fishing.org/en/theory-of-change/
https://end-of-fishing.org/en/plans/
https://end-of-fishing.org/en/kpis/
- One cultural and community-building strategy is the Réseau Sentience (Sentience Network), a network of student associations focused on challenging speciesism, promoting sentientism and effective altruism, and vegetalizing university canteens. It currently exists in France, but it would like to export it to the US, India and elsewhere. The network is now run by a small team, and each local branch is autonomous but linked to the network and run by students on a volunteer basis (and the branches are to some extent funded by their universities!) The number of actions carried out is significant, the aim is to occupy cultural space, and many students train as activists and then remain part of the movement, either joining existing organizations or creating new initiatives. See its Theory of Change: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tpaIfaUrG_7Wyach3O64iYE1fJnai-pgadyyswiXksw/edit
There are other examples, of course, such as annual meetings that are important for the movement itself, magazines and so on.
I think the work done by organizations like Animal Think Tank or Animal Ask, or Social Change Lab, is also very important, in terms of research into cultural change (often linked to political struggles and insitutional change).
Thanks Yves! I’ll check out those links and groups.