Would you say your skepticism is mainly tied into the specific framing of “offsetting” as opposed to just donating? How would your answer change if the offset framing was dropped and it was just a plain donation ask?
I was surprised (and I assume Farmkind was too) that the Rethink survey found specifically contrasting donations against diet change didn’t have any positive effect. If that pans out in the real world and the Veganuary offsetting campaign doesn’t have better results than Farmkind’s normal donation asks, I wonder how different it would seem to folks to just have an identity around donating as “membership” in the movement, similar to the NRA, Sierra Club, and other mass membership movement organizations.
Would you say your skepticism is mainly tied into the specific framing of “offsetting” as opposed to just donating? How would your answer change if the offset framing was dropped and it was just a plain donation ask?
I think if it is just donating then there isn’t anything very revolutionary here… animal welfare charities don’t only market to vegetarian/vegans.
I both take it to be true that offsetting is the new and exciting angle here, and that common sense morality doesn’t have much of a place for offsetting.
On the identity thing—I think there is something there, though for ‘membership’ to work we’d need to somehow change the identity of members quite a bit. A non veggy/vegan farm animal welfare member is a bit like an NRA member who doesn’t allow guns in the house, or a Sierra Club member who drives a gas guzzler and doesn’t recycle. Consequentially not that contradictory, but identity-wise, a bit dissonant.
Would you say your skepticism is mainly tied into the specific framing of “offsetting” as opposed to just donating? How would your answer change if the offset framing was dropped and it was just a plain donation ask?
I was surprised (and I assume Farmkind was too) that the Rethink survey found specifically contrasting donations against diet change didn’t have any positive effect. If that pans out in the real world and the Veganuary offsetting campaign doesn’t have better results than Farmkind’s normal donation asks, I wonder how different it would seem to folks to just have an identity around donating as “membership” in the movement, similar to the NRA, Sierra Club, and other mass membership movement organizations.
I think if it is just donating then there isn’t anything very revolutionary here… animal welfare charities don’t only market to vegetarian/vegans.
I both take it to be true that offsetting is the new and exciting angle here, and that common sense morality doesn’t have much of a place for offsetting.
On the identity thing—I think there is something there, though for ‘membership’ to work we’d need to somehow change the identity of members quite a bit. A non veggy/vegan farm animal welfare member is a bit like an NRA member who doesn’t allow guns in the house, or a Sierra Club member who drives a gas guzzler and doesn’t recycle. Consequentially not that contradictory, but identity-wise, a bit dissonant.