temporalis

• temporalisFeb 7, 2023, 3:27 AM

  3 points

  3 ∶ 1

  in reply to: Peter Wildeford’s comment on: EA, Sex­ual Harass­ment, and Abuse

  I don’t think polyamory is a risk factor, but a relative lack of committed relationships in EA definitely is one (makes for more propositioning in general).

  This seems like a very strange view? Polyamory allows for more propositioning in general because even people in committed relationships can proposition people.

• temporalisFeb 4, 2023, 11:07 PM

  23 points

  12 ∶ 29

  in reply to: MathiasKB🔸’s comment on: EA, Sex­ual Harass­ment, and Abuse

  What should I tell them? “I promise this is not an issue in our local community”?

  I’ve been extremely excited to prepare this event. I would get to teach Denmark’s brightest high schoolers about hierarchies of evidence, help them conduct their own cost-effectiveness analyses, and hopefully inspire a new generation to take action to make the world a better place.

  Now I have to worry about whether it would be more appropriate to send the organizers a heads up informing them about the article and give them a chance to reconsider working with us.

  I frankly feel unequipped to deal with something like this.

  You’re venting, but I’ll try to answer helpfully. The right thing to say is surely:

  • Sexual assault is very bad.

  • If anyone is aware of any specific incident, they should contact the CEA team or their local law enforcement.

  • We try to prevent it, and expel those who commit it (including some of the people in this story).

  • It occurs in every community.

  • There is little reason to think the EA community in general is much more or less problematic here than other movements (unless you think polyamory and drugs are risk factors).

  • It is impossible for any large decentralized movement to reduce the rate to zero.

  • One of the major examples in the story is about someone who basically noone regards as an EA (and does not call himself an EA).

  • You shouldn’t take journalists with an agenda to push at face value, especially as they tend to highlight the most extreme and unrepresentative examples.

  • The EA movement has a bunch of critics who are willing to use dishonest means to attack it because it threatens their moral superiority.

  This sounds like a lot to deal with. But at the end of the day, this is basically a common issue that has occurred for most movements. For an extreme example, rape accusations against their leaders didn’t stop both Republican and Democrat parties repeatedly uniting behind and getting the accused men elected President.

• temporalisFeb 4, 2023, 10:48 PM

  −11 points

  2 ∶ 11

  in reply to: Jeff Kaufman 🔸’s comment on: EA, Sex­ual Harass­ment, and Abuse

  Well if everyone who receives it shares it with their friends (as instructed), and those friends share it with their friends (as instructed), and those friends… it will become a fully public document before long.

• temporalisFeb 4, 2023, 8:32 PM

  77 points

  25 ∶ 8

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• temporalisFeb 4, 2023, 7:59 PM

  2 points

  3 ∶ 6

  in reply to: Linch’s comment on: EA, Sex­ual Harass­ment, and Abuse

  The document literally says:

  SHARE THIS LIST with your friends

  Being able to see the document is useful to people because it proves that the perpetrator was not actually an EA.

• temporalisJan 16, 2023, 4:22 AM

  20 points

  9 ∶ 1

  in reply to: Habiba Banu’s comment on: A per­sonal re­sponse to Nick Bostrom’s “Apol­ogy for an Old Email”

  Thanks for your reply. :)

  For what it’s worth, if people want to see what Adam Rutherford himself thinks of this, he has been fairly forthright in his response on his twitter see:

  Yes, he’s been very forthright in his opinion of Bostrom! But on the broader issue he has not been straightforward on Twitter, but rather has been intentionally vague (as many would in his position).

  As far as I can see, there are three main issues:

  1. Are their racial IQ differences?

     1. Bostrom and Rutherford agree yes.

  2. Are these differences caused by genes?

     1. Bostrom thinks maybe yes, Rutherford thinks probably no (though it can’t be fully ruled out).

  3. Whether and how it is appropriate or harmful to discuss the topic.

     1. Clear disagreement between Nick and Adam.

  They disagree about 3), and this is what Nick’s most sophisticated critics criticize him for, like you in this post.

  But I think most readers don’t realize they agree on 1). If you look at the headlines, there are a bunch saying ‘racist Oxford professor thinks Blacks are less intelligent than whites/​asians’. For the majority of normal people, 1) is very suprising. Rutherford is strategic in not revealing that he also aligns with 1), thus utilizing emotive language to critique Nick instead of clearly articulating what they disagree and agree with.

  Rutherford says he is distributing a copy of his book to Bostrom. As far as I can see, the logical conclusion for Nick (if he reads it) is to update to increase his credence that 1) is true. After all, if even an anti-racist biologist ally thinks there are racial IQ gaps, that seems like strong evidence it is true.

  What links here?

  • temporalis's comment on Nick Bostrom should step down as Direc­tor of FHI by BostromAnonAccount (Mar 4, 2023, 7:23 PM; 20 points)

• temporalisJan 15, 2023, 3:45 AM

  12 points

  6 ∶ 2

  on: A per­sonal re­sponse to Nick Bostrom’s “Apol­ogy for an Old Email”

  Thank you for this very sensitive post Habiba.

  This issue has clearly caused a lot of division in the community which is sad. I think the differences between the two sides do not have to be as great as they appear.

  You mention Adam Rutherford as a good source, and I agree he has done some good work. I think it’s interesting to note that he probably actually agrees with Bostrom on many things here! Here is a quote from Adam’s book (p166);

  When it comes to looking at IQ scores around the world and between different populations, the picture is far from clear, but there are some undeniable differences. The most up-to-date meta-analysis suggest that countries in sub-Saharan Africa are likely to score in the eighties,* as compared to US IQ standards, though these results are not universally accepted. This, obviously, is significantly lower. Interpreting these results is not easy at all, and while it is not possible to fully exclude genertic factors, these seem unlikely owing to the immense genetic diversity that is now well established across that continent.

• temporalisJan 15, 2023, 3:35 AM

  8 points

  5 ∶ 2

  on: [Linkpost] FLI alleged to have offered fund­ing to far right foundation

  Someone should make a prediction market on how true the core claim (that FLI offered a grant to a pro-nazi publication) will turn out to be.

• temporalisJan 12, 2023, 5:48 AM

  3 points

  0 ∶ 0

  in reply to: temporalis’s comment on: A Let­ter to the Bul­letin of Atomic Scientists

  would CEA have also attempted to suppress that?

  Ironically the forum mods did not permit this comment to be visible for 4 (four) days until 28th Nov when the conversation had died down.

• temporalisNov 24, 2022, 7:24 PM

  19 points

  4 ∶ 0

  in reply to: Lizka’s comment on: A Let­ter to the Bul­letin of Atomic Scientists

  I also find the focus on mental illness inappropriate.

  This seems like a very bad policy. The risks posed by people with dangerous personality traits has been an EA topic for a while. And we have just had the biggest crisis in the history of EA and it seems one of the contributing factors was people not sharing red flags about the person involved’s personality. If someone had shared concerns that Sam exhibited dangerous personality disorders a month ago, would CEA have also attempted to suppress that?