When I posted, the front page felt âspammyâ, with lots of generic, low-quality posts, presumably from first-time posters. I now rarely click on anything below 15 karma, but that was >50% of my frontpage.
Thanks! Thatâs great to hear because itâs a problem Iâm thinking about right now. Obviously we canât just not show low karma posts to people because every post was once low karma (and every author too).
One solution, which I think I mentioned to you before, is to have a more curated and streamlined frontpage, for those who want to only see the best of the (recent) Forum. Below is a mock-up:
Would something like this solve your problem do you think? Posts which appeared on this page would be hand chosen, with a similar bar to the Digest, but updated daily.
PS- I know it is bad product discovery to just ask lol. I still think you get some evidence from a strong no or a strong yes.
It doesnât appeal to me because I want higher info density, and this reduces itâI could see others liking it .
Itâs not obvious to me that you canât just hide low karma posts as an optionâsome options: 1. All first-time posts are reviewed by the forum team, who can upvote things and put them above the threshold 2. Make the low karma/âlow user karma post hiding disabled by default 3. Try out an option for a bit and remove it if itâs not working well
Weâll definitely be doing (3), hopefully in the next few weeks.
âIt doesnât appeal to me because I want higher info densityââfair!
How about a normal list of posts but still on a âfeaturedâ page. In other words, these would be the best posts, chosen by the Forum team.
Sort of like the Digest, but all the time, and without the organisation updates and most of community, and with the addition of good recent discussion.
I could see that being good. I think Iâd still prefer the filter-out-under-n karma option because I understand whatâs actually going on under the hood. I expect Iâd prefer it to the current front page.
Iâd be in favor of something like â>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation teamâ as Caleb suggested below as a filtering option to try to resolve the issue of people just filtering out 100% of new posts and new posts never rising. E.g. I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it (and generally I feel pro-heavier moderation on the Forum especially if it is focused on maintaining quality).
I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it
Yep this is true. Though itâs perhaps not reassuring to new authors lol.
â>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation teamâ
My current plan is >100 karma, and loads of âfeaturedâ posts by the moderation team for the featured page, and then keeping the frontpage as is. Once Iâve built this thing there will be a lot of room for experimentation with the algorithm though.
I donât think so. Best bet is to use the all posts page, weekly, sort by karma. Then close your eyes when you scroll down to posts below 15 karma.
What was the use case here?
When I posted, the front page felt âspammyâ, with lots of generic, low-quality posts, presumably from first-time posters. I now rarely click on anything below 15 karma, but that was >50% of my frontpage.
Thanks! Thatâs great to hear because itâs a problem Iâm thinking about right now.
Obviously we canât just not show low karma posts to people because every post was once low karma (and every author too).
One solution, which I think I mentioned to you before, is to have a more curated and streamlined frontpage, for those who want to only see the best of the (recent) Forum. Below is a mock-up:
Would something like this solve your problem do you think? Posts which appeared on this page would be hand chosen, with a similar bar to the Digest, but updated daily.
PS- I know it is bad product discovery to just ask lol. I still think you get some evidence from a strong no or a strong yes.
It doesnât appeal to me because I want higher info density, and this reduces itâI could see others liking it .
Itâs not obvious to me that you canât just hide low karma posts as an optionâsome options:
1. All first-time posts are reviewed by the forum team, who can upvote things and put them above the threshold
2. Make the low karma/âlow user karma post hiding disabled by default
3. Try out an option for a bit and remove it if itâs not working well
Weâll definitely be doing (3), hopefully in the next few weeks.
âIt doesnât appeal to me because I want higher info densityââfair!
How about a normal list of posts but still on a âfeaturedâ page. In other words, these would be the best posts, chosen by the Forum team.
Sort of like the Digest, but all the time, and without the organisation updates and most of community, and with the addition of good recent discussion.
I could see that being good. I think Iâd still prefer the filter-out-under-n karma option because I understand whatâs actually going on under the hood. I expect Iâd prefer it to the current front page.
Iâd be in favor of something like â>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation teamâ as Caleb suggested below as a filtering option to try to resolve the issue of people just filtering out 100% of new posts and new posts never rising. E.g. I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it (and generally I feel pro-heavier moderation on the Forum especially if it is focused on maintaining quality).
Yep this is true. Though itâs perhaps not reassuring to new authors lol.
My current plan is >100 karma, and loads of âfeaturedâ posts by the moderation team for the featured page, and then keeping the frontpage as is. Once Iâve built this thing there will be a lot of room for experimentation with the algorithm though.