When I posted, the front page felt “spammy”, with lots of generic, low-quality posts, presumably from first-time posters. I now rarely click on anything below 15 karma, but that was >50% of my frontpage.
Thanks! That’s great to hear because it’s a problem I’m thinking about right now. Obviously we can’t just not show low karma posts to people because every post was once low karma (and every author too).
One solution, which I think I mentioned to you before, is to have a more curated and streamlined frontpage, for those who want to only see the best of the (recent) Forum. Below is a mock-up:
Would something like this solve your problem do you think? Posts which appeared on this page would be hand chosen, with a similar bar to the Digest, but updated daily.
PS- I know it is bad product discovery to just ask lol. I still think you get some evidence from a strong no or a strong yes.
It doesn’t appeal to me because I want higher info density, and this reduces it—I could see others liking it .
It’s not obvious to me that you can’t just hide low karma posts as an option—some options: 1. All first-time posts are reviewed by the forum team, who can upvote things and put them above the threshold 2. Make the low karma/low user karma post hiding disabled by default 3. Try out an option for a bit and remove it if it’s not working well
We’ll definitely be doing (3), hopefully in the next few weeks.
“It doesn’t appeal to me because I want higher info density”—fair!
How about a normal list of posts but still on a ‘featured’ page. In other words, these would be the best posts, chosen by the Forum team.
Sort of like the Digest, but all the time, and without the organisation updates and most of community, and with the addition of good recent discussion.
I could see that being good. I think I’d still prefer the filter-out-under-n karma option because I understand what’s actually going on under the hood. I expect I’d prefer it to the current front page.
I’d be in favor of something like “>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation team” as Caleb suggested below as a filtering option to try to resolve the issue of people just filtering out 100% of new posts and new posts never rising. E.g. I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it (and generally I feel pro-heavier moderation on the Forum especially if it is focused on maintaining quality).
I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it
Yep this is true. Though it’s perhaps not reassuring to new authors lol.
“>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation team”
My current plan is >100 karma, and loads of ‘featured’ posts by the moderation team for the featured page, and then keeping the frontpage as is. Once I’ve built this thing there will be a lot of room for experimentation with the algorithm though.
When I posted, the front page felt “spammy”, with lots of generic, low-quality posts, presumably from first-time posters. I now rarely click on anything below 15 karma, but that was >50% of my frontpage.
Thanks! That’s great to hear because it’s a problem I’m thinking about right now.
Obviously we can’t just not show low karma posts to people because every post was once low karma (and every author too).
One solution, which I think I mentioned to you before, is to have a more curated and streamlined frontpage, for those who want to only see the best of the (recent) Forum. Below is a mock-up:
Would something like this solve your problem do you think? Posts which appeared on this page would be hand chosen, with a similar bar to the Digest, but updated daily.
PS- I know it is bad product discovery to just ask lol. I still think you get some evidence from a strong no or a strong yes.
It doesn’t appeal to me because I want higher info density, and this reduces it—I could see others liking it .
It’s not obvious to me that you can’t just hide low karma posts as an option—some options:
1. All first-time posts are reviewed by the forum team, who can upvote things and put them above the threshold
2. Make the low karma/low user karma post hiding disabled by default
3. Try out an option for a bit and remove it if it’s not working well
We’ll definitely be doing (3), hopefully in the next few weeks.
“It doesn’t appeal to me because I want higher info density”—fair!
How about a normal list of posts but still on a ‘featured’ page. In other words, these would be the best posts, chosen by the Forum team.
Sort of like the Digest, but all the time, and without the organisation updates and most of community, and with the addition of good recent discussion.
I could see that being good. I think I’d still prefer the filter-out-under-n karma option because I understand what’s actually going on under the hood. I expect I’d prefer it to the current front page.
I’d be in favor of something like “>15 karma + many curated new posts by the moderation team” as Caleb suggested below as a filtering option to try to resolve the issue of people just filtering out 100% of new posts and new posts never rising. E.g. I imagine you all could often whitelist certain users or just glance at a post and tell that it is worth pushing through without reading it (and generally I feel pro-heavier moderation on the Forum especially if it is focused on maintaining quality).
Yep this is true. Though it’s perhaps not reassuring to new authors lol.
My current plan is >100 karma, and loads of ‘featured’ posts by the moderation team for the featured page, and then keeping the frontpage as is. Once I’ve built this thing there will be a lot of room for experimentation with the algorithm though.