Genuinely curious: who here would class themselves as an EA animal advocate would agree that “the political will for a phase-out will never materialise, and that we’ll be forever optimising suffering within a system we’ll never dismantle.” ?
Like, it might be my experience, but I cannot ever hearing an EA animal advocate express this idea. But I could be wrong?
I agree, I basically believe this, at least within my lifetime / timespans that seem reasonable to think strategically on, and I think I count as an animal advocate! I’d prefer this not be true obviously, but it seems pretty likely to me.
My sense is this feeling is not uncommon among very EA animal advocates — e.g. I can think of 5-10 people offhand who I would bet would agree, including people in leadership roles at animal organizations.
Genuinely curious: who here would class themselves as an EA animal advocate would agree that “the political will for a phase-out will never materialise, and that we’ll be forever optimising suffering within a system we’ll never dismantle.” ?
Like, it might be my experience, but I cannot ever hearing an EA animal advocate express this idea. But I could be wrong?
A few people hold something maybe close to this view (e.g.) but I do think that’s a bit of a straw man argument.
I agree, I basically believe this, at least within my lifetime / timespans that seem reasonable to think strategically on, and I think I count as an animal advocate! I’d prefer this not be true obviously, but it seems pretty likely to me.
My sense is this feeling is not uncommon among very EA animal advocates — e.g. I can think of 5-10 people offhand who I would bet would agree, including people in leadership roles at animal organizations.
Ah cool, thanks for that context!