I don’t think the crux here is whether one ought to micromanage the attendance decisions of external events. It’s more about:
“Should one give a platform to Hanania?”
“If forum users think it’s wrong to give a platform to Hanania, is it reasonable for them to express displeasure at Manifest for giving him a platform?”
“If someone points out that Hanania has said, by his own admission, horrible things and therefore probably shouldn’t be given a platform, is it reasonable to then write a long comment trying to add nuance to the discussion, instead of simply saying, ‘yeah, seems right’”
My guess is that the crux between people disagreeing is typically closer to: “is this mostly a question of managing the details of how someone else ran an event, or is this mostly a question of appropriate social signalling?”
There is an object-level disagreement about what counts as unacceptable racism here, not just a meta-disagreement about norms. One person-I assume a rationalist but I don’t know that-in the main thread didn’t understand why I was offended by something they posted in which Hanania basically implied that the Civil Rights Act caused crime.
I don’t think the crux here is whether one ought to micromanage the attendance decisions of external events. It’s more about:
“Should one give a platform to Hanania?”
“If forum users think it’s wrong to give a platform to Hanania, is it reasonable for them to express displeasure at Manifest for giving him a platform?”
“If someone points out that Hanania has said, by his own admission, horrible things and therefore probably shouldn’t be given a platform, is it reasonable to then write a long comment trying to add nuance to the discussion, instead of simply saying, ‘yeah, seems right’”
My guess is that the crux between people disagreeing is typically closer to: “is this mostly a question of managing the details of how someone else ran an event, or is this mostly a question of appropriate social signalling?”
There is an object-level disagreement about what counts as unacceptable racism here, not just a meta-disagreement about norms. One person-I assume a rationalist but I don’t know that-in the main thread didn’t understand why I was offended by something they posted in which Hanania basically implied that the Civil Rights Act caused crime.
I think it’s a bit tricky when we assume people who disagree with us are of the ‘opposing’ party.