Hi Keller — appreciate the thoughts here! I wanted to quickly note that we did actually give attendees a heads up about this in our attendee guide, and we’ve done similarly in most of our other recent conference attendee guides.
Though I generally don’t expect attendees to read this all the way through, we did share it multiple times, and I’m not sure whether it would have made sense to email attendees about the journalist section specifically (if I was going to reiterate something, it probably wouldn’t be this).
If someone attends the event as a journalist, why not have their lanyard show that they are a journalist? This seems like it’s a very easy thing to do and something like this is probably pretty standard at large events that are not fully public(?) This would probably solve some of the issues, as people know who they are talking to (and eg organisers of private afterparties could just not let journalists in if they don’t want them at their party).
I do agree there’s a wide spectrum of what “disclosing this” looks like and I think it’s entirely possible that you did disclose it enough or maybe even disclosed it more than enough (for example, if perhaps we conclude it didn’t need to be disclosed at all, then you did more than necessary). I think—like Keller—I don’t really have a view on this. But I think the level of disclosure you did do is also entirely possible to be pretty inadequate (again I’m genuinely not sure) given that is on page 9 of a guide I imagine most people don’t read (I didn’t). But I imagine you agree with this.
I feel like the relevant thing isn’t mentioning the possibility a journalist might be there; if I was to read this I think I’d assume this meant EA journalists (or at least EA-adjacent / fellow traveller) and hence largely ignore it.
I think it was implied by this statement but I think it’s a fair point that we could make this more explicit: “In interviews, don’t speak on behalf of the entire EA community, or anyone else in the EA community” (as if you were talking to an EA journalist, I think this wouldn’t really apply).
Fair enough, though I didn’t pick that up on first read I think you’re right it is implied. I think my true rejection here is about invitations not disclosure.
Hi Keller — appreciate the thoughts here! I wanted to quickly note that we did actually give attendees a heads up about this in our attendee guide, and we’ve done similarly in most of our other recent conference attendee guides.
Though I generally don’t expect attendees to read this all the way through, we did share it multiple times, and I’m not sure whether it would have made sense to email attendees about the journalist section specifically (if I was going to reiterate something, it probably wouldn’t be this).
If someone attends the event as a journalist, why not have their lanyard show that they are a journalist? This seems like it’s a very easy thing to do and something like this is probably pretty standard at large events that are not fully public(?) This would probably solve some of the issues, as people know who they are talking to (and eg organisers of private afterparties could just not let journalists in if they don’t want them at their party).
I do agree there’s a wide spectrum of what “disclosing this” looks like and I think it’s entirely possible that you did disclose it enough or maybe even disclosed it more than enough (for example, if perhaps we conclude it didn’t need to be disclosed at all, then you did more than necessary). I think—like Keller—I don’t really have a view on this. But I think the level of disclosure you did do is also entirely possible to be pretty inadequate (again I’m genuinely not sure) given that is on page 9 of a guide I imagine most people don’t read (I didn’t). But I imagine you agree with this.
I feel like the relevant thing isn’t mentioning the possibility a journalist might be there; if I was to read this I think I’d assume this meant EA journalists (or at least EA-adjacent / fellow traveller) and hence largely ignore it.
I think it was implied by this statement but I think it’s a fair point that we could make this more explicit: “In interviews, don’t speak on behalf of the entire EA community, or anyone else in the EA community” (as if you were talking to an EA journalist, I think this wouldn’t really apply).
Fair enough, though I didn’t pick that up on first read I think you’re right it is implied. I think my true rejection here is about invitations not disclosure.