Co-founder of Healthier Hens (2021-2024), Tech founder of ecorbio (2020-).
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Thanks for providing these external benchmarks and making it easier to compare! Do you mind if I updated the text to include a reference to your comments?
Indeed, since these were initial estimates, we excluded reporting the other pain intensities to keep it brief. However, once we go through the follow-up data and have the second set of estimates, weāll make sure to include all of the ranges, so that more comprehensive comparisons could be made. But my understanding is that for water and feed, it could be ~1:5:7 (disabling:hurtful:annoying) and ~1:1:0.1 for heat stress.
But your caveat is very importantāweāve only just identified this as an interesting intervention for the Global South, the feasibility of cost effectively mitigating such welfare issues remains untested.
Is it just me or is the map image link broken?
Definitelyā¦ We expected no effect at worst, so at least it was trialled small and in a well-controlled manner! Do share if you have opportunities, so that itās not repeated or rolled out somewhere. Thanks!
Weāll see what the data show and post an update once we make a decision.
Thanks for putting this together, Ren!
Double link for Animal Advocacy in the Age of AI (EA Forum), I think.
Thanks for the feedback Tristan. Yes, really happy with the hire!
Great idea with the narrative-type write-up! I definitely see how it could read better.
Nice one Robert! All the best. <3
Thanks for your support, Charles! Y2 should really give us more insight into whatās possible.
Thanks for sharing thisāinteresting! Would your opinion on the mandatory use of CCTV change significantly if you considered on-farm CCTV instead?
Thanks for the feedback, pete! Iāve just gotten rid of AW. Weāll read it once more to see where we can reduce the use of some of the others, too.
Thanks for your kind words and support!
Interesting! It sounds like youāll have more rounds of this program later. E.g. in a year? How likely is that, would you now say?
Done, thanks so much for sharingāalex--!
This is great stuff, Karolina! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
Thanks for sharing and all of your great work! I still find estimating and comparing cost-effectiveness difficult to grasp, but, roughly, how would you say the potential cost-effectiveness of such an intervention (i.e. 12 welfare points per dollar) compare to that of cage-free campaigns (as defined in https://āāforum.effectivealtruism.org/āāposts/āāL5EZjjXKdNgcm253H/āācorporate-campaigns-affect-9-to-120-years-of-chicken-life )? Thanks!
It seems that at least some European countries are seriously considering a meat/āclimate impact tax. What impact, do you expect, this could have? Do any unexpected potential flow-through effects come to mind?
Which issues/ācause areas, do you think, could benefit the most from undercover investigation footage?
Thanks!
Iām seeing more and more being published on various photonics/āplasmonics techniques. Could be promising. Iām hearing the ultimate goal is on-site, rapid automatic pathogen identification at <5 euro/āsample.
Thanks!
Thanks for your great work! With respect to āFarmers reported that insects, especially crickets, will eat other insects if not provided an outside source of chitin.ā, do producers use insect-derived chitin as a supplement? If so, do you have a published reference for this?
Do you know how small of a fraction of your presented figures are animals kept alive for breeding (e.g. adult flies or mealworm beetles)? Do you know anything about their lifespans/āmortality/āfate? Thanks!
Thanks for doing this AMA, Lewis!
Whatās your take on when a promising intervention seems cost-effective enough to be tried? Do you think we should be using something akin to GiveWellās approach, piloting stuff thatās estimated to be, e.g., ~10x more cost-effective than further cage-free campaigns, or...? I realise your opinion on this might not correspond to OPās overall stance, but Iād love to hear your thoughts about such existent and upcoming benchmarks and thresholds within EAA. Thank you!