This is a critically important point to hold in mind if the reason for the move seems to be due to safety concerns as opposed to personal malpractice/deceiving the board[1]
I don’t know what the hell happened. I guess further clarifications on the decision-making process and corporate landscape will be known tomorrow or, more likely, early next working week
I’ve voiced concerns before that EA is unaware that it can be drawn into ‘one-way fights’ sometimes, and this feels like another such moment. The Silicon Valley tech-twitter scene[2] has exploded over this, and so far EA is not coming out well in their eyes from what I can see. I think the days of “e/acc” being a meme movement are rapidly drawing to a close, and EA might find itself in a hostile atmosphere in what used to be one of the most EA-friendly places in the world.
Again, early speculations, but be careful out there Bay-Area EAs. Keep your wits about you.
Yeah, this is one of the few times where I believe that the EAs on the board likely overreached here, because they probably didn’t give enough evidence to justify their excoriating statement there that Sam Altman was dishonest, and he might be coming back to lead the company.
I’m not sure how to react to all of this, though.
Edit: My reaction is just WTF happened, and why did they completely play themselves? Though honestly, I just believe that they were inexperienced.
Yeah, the tech scene really seems to come down on the side of Sam Altman already. Let’s hope the board had good grounds and will be able to demonstrate evidence of dishonesty soon
I’ve shared very similar concerns for a while. The risk of successful narrow EA endeavors that lack transparency backfiring in this manner feels very predictable to me, but many seem to disagree.
This is a critically important point to hold in mind if the reason for the move seems to be due to safety concerns as opposed to personal malpractice/deceiving the board
Really strange that, while this looks like the most likely reason, it’s not really reflected in the language.
Do these explanations seem at odds to you for some reason? The language used in the statement does not say anything about personal malpractice/deception, just that he was “not consistently candid in his communications with the board”. It seems entirely possible to me, and indeed probably most likely given what else we now know, that the board is alleging dishonesty re: safety-related commitments he made, or something like this.
Worth noting that of the 4 remaining board members, 2 are associated with EA: Helen Toner (CSET) and Tasha McCauley (EV UK board member)
This is a critically important point to hold in mind if the reason for the move seems to be due to safety concerns as opposed to personal malpractice/deceiving the board[1]
I don’t know what the hell happened. I guess further clarifications on the decision-making process and corporate landscape will be known tomorrow or, more likely, early next working week
I’ve voiced concerns before that EA is unaware that it can be drawn into ‘one-way fights’ sometimes, and this feels like another such moment. The Silicon Valley tech-twitter scene[2] has exploded over this, and so far EA is not coming out well in their eyes from what I can see. I think the days of “e/acc” being a meme movement are rapidly drawing to a close, and EA might find itself in a hostile atmosphere in what used to be one of the most EA-friendly places in the world.
Again, early speculations, but be careful out there Bay-Area EAs. Keep your wits about you.
Really strange that, while this looks like the most likely reason, it’s not really reflected in the language
Perhaps one of the few cases where Twitter might be an accurate representation of thoughts on the ground
Ironically, this particular set of comments is doing the rounds on Twitter with some banal commentary. https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1726132247227740623?t=Qu5UR4QKDz5anypwmuANwQ&s=19
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Yeah, this is one of the few times where I believe that the EAs on the board likely overreached here, because they probably didn’t give enough evidence to justify their excoriating statement there that Sam Altman was dishonest, and he might be coming back to lead the company.
I’m not sure how to react to all of this, though.
Edit: My reaction is just WTF happened, and why did they completely play themselves? Though honestly, I just believe that they were inexperienced.
Kudos for being uncertain, given the limited information available.
(Not something one cay say about many of the other comments to this post, sadly.)
Yeah, the tech scene really seems to come down on the side of Sam Altman already. Let’s hope the board had good grounds and will be able to demonstrate evidence of dishonesty soon
I’ve shared very similar concerns for a while. The risk of successful narrow EA endeavors that lack transparency backfiring in this manner feels very predictable to me, but many seem to disagree.
There’s some related discussion here on LW.
Do these explanations seem at odds to you for some reason? The language used in the statement does not say anything about personal malpractice/deception, just that he was “not consistently candid in his communications with the board”. It seems entirely possible to me, and indeed probably most likely given what else we now know, that the board is alleging dishonesty re: safety-related commitments he made, or something like this.
Adam D’Angelo also worked at Facebook with Moskovitz from 2004 to 2008 (incl. as CTO 2006-2008) and is on the board of Asana