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I recently read Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins, as well as Living with a SEAL about him, and found both pretty appealing. Also wondered whether EA could learn anything from this approach, and am pretty sure that this is indeed the case, at least for a subset of people. There is surely also some risk of his “no bullshit / total honesty / never quit” attitude to be very detrimental to some, but I assume it can be quite helpful for others.
In a way, CFAR workshops seem to go in a similar-ish direction, don’t they? Just much more compressed. So one hypothetical option to think about would be to consider scaling it up to a multi-month program, for highly ambitious & driven people who prioritize maximizing their impact to an unusually high degree. Thinking about it, this does indeed sound at least somewhat like what Charity Entrepeneurship is doing. Although it’s a pretty particular and rather “object-level” approach, so I can imagine having some alternatives that require similarly high levels of commitment but have a different focus could indeed be very valuable.
I think a related question is:
”How much less effective would a project have to be for it to be worth it in terms of possible effectiveness and training value?”
ie Is it worth there being moonshot with lower EV than say GiveDirectly, which might find great leaders?
This seems related to Ben Todd’s recent comment that EA has a leadership bottleneck. If true, why is training more leaders not a top priority? Maybe I’m misunderstanding something. https://twitter.com/ben_j_todd/status/1423318856622346249
What makes you think it isn’t a top priority to train more leaders?
Put another way, what is your current impression of EA’s “top priorities”, on a community building / professional development level?
(CEA is keen on giving people opportunities to run projects, they pay for books and other resources on professional development, and overall seem to care a lot about helping staff prepare for future leadership if they want to do so. I’d guess that Open Phil and other longstanding orgs are similar?)