“You stepped on a nematode”
Alex Parry
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“it even revealed high performance in a new unfathomable dimension of capability that we are still struggling to comprehend” - this, combined with the ??? visualisation, just magnificent
Thank you for making my day with this. The section on “why are we qualified to lead this venture” was perfection.
80% of people already donating in one way or another was surprising to me as I read it—kind of cool to hear—do you think there’s merit, if people delivering similar talks/initiatives in their own corporate environments, in asking that question really early on and having different versions of the content that they could lean towards depending on the responses?
I massively agree with this, if people are still determined to work within OpenAI then they should probably have a proven track record of strong emotional and moral resilience within hostile organisations/settings, and strong enough interpersonal skills to build internal networks of aligned parties willing to speak up at key times.
I mean this with genuine care, but most machine learning engineers (and comp sci folks in general) do not fit this bill. I realise that’s a generalisation, but it should be somewhat self evident that the type of person who has spent most of their life in academia, enjoys hours of solo computer time and loves complex mathematics probably isn’t simultaneously a charismatic, relationally dynamic political machine.
The double think involved to somehow try to sell government strong arming of private companies as a move for freedom and American values is wild.
Commitments eroding under pressure strikes me as such a clear gap in the thinking around AI; we assume/hope that governance proposals, even those that make it into law, are actually going to followed, measured or evaluated accurately. Yet how much leverage really exists over multi-billionaire conglomerates and/or authoritarian leaning governments who are willing to bend/ignore rules as they see fit?
Somewhere between this, the lawsuits, gulf state funding and partnering with Palantir, one surely has to wonder if Anthropic are still ‘the good guys of AI’
Ooo interesting, this comment got almost exclusively agreement 2-3 days ago, then almost exclusively disagreement after anthropics’ response to Hegseth. I guess that response is a potentially promising indicator, that is, Anthropic does have some hard limits. I do wonder, though, if it is a strong enough signal to negate the others.
EAFA league
I would love to see that normalised, I’m personally in the ideation stage for a new org, and have been considering asking the forum to help red team, but it’s not something I’ve seen done all that much, so I’ve somewhat held off.
No deep thoughts from me, just wanted to say congratulations on the successful completion of the book.
And to point out that whilst you “don’t consider yourself a natural writer”—Yann Martel said the same thing
I resonated with your arguments on fun, meaning and connection Vs hard-line stances. I’m vegan, have been for years, donate to animal charities, have volunteered at local shelters, but do not tend to engage with street level activism, as a lot of my encounters with animals rights/vegan activists in the UK have been outright off-putting. I would often come away thinking “if you can’t convince me, who on earth is this working on?”
This is more of a note for myself that I felt might resonate/help some other folks here...
For Better Thinking, Consider Doing Less
I am, like I believe many EAs are, a kind of obsessive, A-type, “high-achieving” person with 27 projects and 18 lines of thought on the go. My default position is usually “work very very hard to solve the problem.”
And yet, some of my best, clearest thinking consistently comes when I back off and allow my brain far more space and downtime than feels comfortable, and I am yet again being reminded of that over the past couple of (deliberately quieter) weeks.
So, yeah, just a thought, but if you’re feeling like you’re banging your head up against a problem, maybe (counter-intuitively) consider doing way less to solve it for a while
I think that because so many of us here are so immersed/involved in AI safety discussions, it’s easy to forget that most people really aren’t (at least not to anything close to the same depth)
And I definitely agree with your overall emphasis towards political action.
For me though, I might put the title as “we’re not getting through (quickly enough)” because I do think there are some notable examples of politicians getting far more switched on to this stuff.
I really like this as a format; accessible, action/output oriented. I hope you get a good uptake and some strong ideas
I think, realistically, EA hasn’t bottlenecked by talent for a long time—at least not in a raw numbers sense
My thoughts, linked to what Conor said, are that many orgs (even with funds) don’t hire more because they aren’t confident in their ability to manage them or scale internal functions quickly, which is a downstream issue of some epistemic issues in EA hiring.
In essence, the types of people EA orgs say they need (experienced managers, senior leaders etc) struggle to get into EA roles because many EA orgs place disproportionate weight upon EA (or cause specific) credentials over non EA experience—to the extent that candidates with a couple years in EA type roles can end up outcompeting people with a good deal more experience in higher responsibility non-EA positions.
Projects like HIP are doing their very best to address this, but the issue at its core (at least to me) seems to stem from the thinking around hiring.
*Seems I’m being down voted on this one, my thoughts are drawn from a lot of convos with mid career folks from HIP, but I’m open to counterarguments and alternative explanations
Might change my linkedin to “Based, empathy-pilled Goodmaxxer”
On a more serious note, I do wonder if there might be some genuine memetic potential with this, a few influencers get hold of it, maybe a small news channel. I’m far too uncool to really know, but I do wonder.