I expect it’s still worth MIRI being aware that almost as many people still distrust as trust MIRI as being sufficiently honest in its public communications.
FWIW, I found this last bit confusing. In my experience chatting with folk, regardless of how much they agree with or like MIRI, they usually think MIRI is quite candid an honest in it’s communication.
(TBC, I do think the “Death with Dignity” post was needlessly confusing, but that’s not the same thing as dishonest.)
We’ve also been doing media and we’re working on building capacity and gaining expertise to do more of it more effectively.
Publishing research in more traditional venues is also something we’ve been chatting about internally.
Yeah, that should be a reasonably good estimate.
What’s included in the “cost of doing business” category? $0.8M strikes me as high, but I don’t have a granular understanding here.
It includes things like, rent, utilities, general office expenses, furnishings/equipment, bank/processing fees, software/services, insurance, bookkeeping/accounting, visas/legal. The largest expense that makes up the estimated ~$0.8M is rent, which accounts for just over half.
Is it right that you’re estimating 2020′s compensation expenditure at ~$182,000 per employee? (($3.56M + $1.4M + $0.51M) / 30 employees)
No, that will be an over estimate for a few reasons:
The $0.51M is an estimate of what new research staff we’ll add to the team in 2020 will cost. (So above the 30 we have at the moment.)
The $1.4M estimate for General Personnel assumes we’ll add one new operations staff in 2020.
The $3.56M estimate for Research Personnel, largely represents salaries and related costs for existing research staff, but it also includes compensation for research interns and research contractors.
Were most of the 12 new staff onboarded early enough in 2019 such that it makes sense to include them in a 2019 per capita expenditure estimate?
We added 8 new staff in 2019. When I make our spending estimates, I assume new staff are added evenly throughout the year, i.e., I assume the spending on all new staff in a given year will be ~50% of their total annual cost. In practice given that we aren’t talking about very large numbers here the accuracy of that estimate varies quite a bit. The distributions of when new staff were added in 2019 was pretty centered on the middle of the year, though salary level of those staff will likely complicate things here (I haven’t run those numbers.)
(I’m COO at MIRI.)
Just wanted to provide some info that might be helpful:
We currently have 30 staff at the moment.
Our 2019 fundraiser post has a high-level breakdown of our spending estimates for 2020.
In our 2018 fundraiser post there’s a budget estimate for 2019. The upper end of our estimated spending for 2019 in that post was $5.5M. I expect we’ll actually come in under $6M but definitely over $5.5M. (This is inline with the upper end of updated spending estimates I generated internally in Q1 2019.)
Our 2018 in review post has a high-level breakdown of our 2018 spending. You can also see audited financial statements on our transparency page. (Note that figures in the financial statements and in the review post might not match up for a bunch of reasons, e.g., differences in how expenses are categorized, expenses for lease holder improvement and equipment etc. being considered fixed assets that depreciate over time on the financial statements, etc.)
The notable increase in our spending after 2017 is for the most part due to doubling the size of our staff, where more new staff were added in 2019 than in 2018.
The above doesn’t include AI Impacts, which operates on it’s own restricted funding.
Thanks :)
All grants we know we will receive (or are very likely to receive) have already been factored into our reserves estimates, which together with our budget estimate for next year, is the basis for the $1M fundraising goal. We haven’t factored in any future grants where we’re uncertain if we’ll get the grant, uncertain of the size or structure of the grant, etc.
Update: Added an announcement of our newest hire, Edward Kmett, as well as, a list of links to relatively recent work we’ve been doing in Agent Foundations, and updated the post to reflect the fact that Giving Tuesday is over (though our matching opportunity continues)!
Yeah, I just replaced the fundraiser progress image in the post with a static version, previewed it by saving to draft first, then published the update. It seems like saving an existing post to draft, then publishing causes the post to be republished :|
First, note that we’re not looking for “proven” solutions; that seems unrealistic. (See comments from Tsvi and Nate elsewhere.) That aside, I’ll interpret this question as asking: “if your research programs succeed, how do you ensure that the results are used in practice?” This question has no simple answer, because the right strategy would likely vary significantly depending on exactly what the results looked like, our relationships with leading AGI teams at the time, and many other factors.
For example:
What sort of results do we have? The strategy is different depending on whether MIRI researchers develop a generic set of tools for aligning arbitrary AGI systems versus whether they develop a set of tools that only work for developing a sufficiently aligned very limited task-directed AI, and so on.[1]
How dangerous do the results seem? Designs for alignable AI systems could feasibly yield insight into how to construct misaligned AI systems; in that case, we’d have to be more careful with the tools. (Bostrom wrote about issues surrounding openness here.)[2]
While the strategy would depend quite a bit on the specifics, I can say the following things in general:
We currently have pretty good relationships with many of the leading AI teams, and most of the leading teams are fairly safety-conscious. If we made a breakthrough in AI alignment, and an expert could easily tell that the tools were useful upon inspection, I think it is very reasonable to expect that the current leading teams would eagerly adopt those tools.
The “pass a law that every AGI must be built a certain way” idea does not seem feasible to me in this context.
In the ideal case, the world will coordinate around the creation of AGI (perhaps via a single collaborative project), in which case there would be more or less only one team that needed to adopt the tools.
In short, my answer here is “AI scientists tend to be reasonable people, and it currently seems reasonable to expect that if we develop alignment tools that clearly work then they’ll use them.”
[1] MIRI’s current focus is mainly on improving the odds that the kinds of advanced AI systems researchers develop down the road are alignable, i.e., they’re the kinds of system we can understand on a deep and detailed enough level to safely use them for various “general-AI-ish” objectives.
[2] On the other hand, sharing sufficiently early-stage alignment ideas may be useful for redirecting research energies toward safety research, or toward capabilities research on relatively alignable systems. What we would do depends not only on the results themselves, but on the state of the rest of the field.
To the first part of your question, most faculty at universities have many other responsibilities beyond research which can include a mix of grant writing, teaching, supervising students, and sitting on various university councils. At MIRI most of these responsibilities simply don’t apply. We also work hard to remove as many distractions from our researchers as we can so they can spend as much of their time as possible actually making research progress. [1]
Regarding incentives, as Nate has previously discussed here on the EA Forum, our researchers aren’t subject to the same publish-or-perish incentives that most academics (especially early in their careers) are. This allows them to focus more on making progress on the most important problems, rather than trying to pump out as many papers as possible.
[1] For example, the ops team takes care of formatting and submitting all MIRI publications, we take on as much of grant application and management as is practical, we manage all the researcher conference travel booking, we provide food at the office, etc.
Re 2, Sam and Eliezer have been corresponding for a while now. They’ve been exploring the possibility of pursuing a couple of different projects together, including co-authoring a book or recording a dialogue of some sort and publishing it online. Sam discussed this briefly on an episode of his podcast. We’ll mention in the newsletter if things get more finalized.
Re 3, it varies a lot month-to-month and person-to-person. Looking at the data, the average and median are pretty close at somewhere between 40–50 hours a week depending on the month. During crunch times some people might be working 60–100-hour weeks.
I’ll also mention that although people at MIRI roughly track how many hours they spend working, and on what, I don’t put much weight on these numbers (especially for researchers). If a researcher comes up with a new idea in the shower, at the gym, on their walk to work, or whatever, I don’t expect them to log those hours as work time. (Fun fact: Scott came up with logical induction on his walk to work.) Many of us are thinking about work when we aren’t at our desks, so to speak. It’s also hard to compare someone who spends 80 hours working on a problem they love and find really exciting, to someone who spends 40 hours on really grueling tasks. I prefer to focus on how much people are getting done and how they are feeling.
Re 4, for me personally, I think my biggest mistake this year was not delegating enough after transitioning into the COO role. This caused a few ops projects to be blocked on me unnecessarily, which set a few ops projects back a few months. (For example, I finished our 2015-in-review document significantly later than I would have liked.)
Over the past couple of years I’ve been excited to see the growth of the community of researchers working on technical problems related to AI alignment.
Here a quick and non-exhaustive list of people (and associated organizations) that I’m following (besides MIRI research staff and associates) in no particular order:
Stuart Russell and the new Center for Human-Compatible AI.
FHI’s growing technical AI safety team, which includes:
Stuart Armstrong, who is also a research associate at MIRI and co-author of Safely Interruptible Agents with Laurent Orseau of DeepMind);
Owain Evans; and
Jan Leike, who recently collaborated with MIRI on the paper A formal solution to the grain of truth problem.
The authors of the Concrete Problems in AI Safety paper:
Dario Amodei, who is now at OpenAI, and Chris Olah and Dan Mané at Google Brain;
Jacob Steinhardt at Stanford;
Paul Christiano, who is a long-time MIRI collaborator currently at OpenAI (see also his writing at medium.com/ai-control); and
John Schulman, also at OpenAI.
DeepMind’s AI safety team, led by Laurent Orseau.
Various other individual academics; for a sampling see speakers at our Colloquium Series on Robust and Beneficial AI and grant recipients from the Future of Life Institute.
When it comes to growth, at the moment our focus is on expanding the research team. As such, our next few hires are likely to be research fellows, and assistant research fellows[1] for both our agent foundations and machine learning technical agendas. We have two new research fellows who are signed on to join the team, Abram Demski and Mihály Bárász. Abram and Mihály will both be more focused on the AF agenda, so I’m hoping our next couple hires after them will be on the ML side. We’re prioritizing people who can write well and quickly; if you or someone you know is interested and has that sort of skill, you’re encouraged to get in touch with Alex Vermeer.
As mentioned in MIRI Update and Fundraising Case, which Nate posted here a few days ago, in the medium term our current plan is to grow our research team to 13–17 people. Since we already have a pretty solid ops foundation, I don’t anticipate that we’ll need to increase our ops capacity very much to support a research team of that size, so unless our strategy changes significantly, I expect most of our upcoming hires will be researchers.
[1] At MIRI, research fellow is a full-time permanent position. A decent analogy in academia might be that research fellows are to assistant research fellows as full-time faculty are to post-docs. Assistant research fellowships are intended to be a more junior position with a fixed 1–2 year term.
(Writing this while on a flight with bad Wi-Fi, so I’ll keep it brief.)
Just wanted to quickly drop a note to say that we also do work targeted at policymakers, e.g.,
we have a new small team at MIRI working on technical governance topics whose work is mostly targeted at folks doing related work and policymakers;
I just spent the past week in DC (my third such trip this year) mostly meeting with policymakers; and
while our comms work is generally targeted at a more general audience, we usually have policymakers in mind as one (of many) target audiences.
(In general our work more directly targeted at policymakers has been less visible to date. That will definitely continue to be the case for some of it, but I’m hopeful that we’ll have more publicly observable outputs in the future.)