sammyboiz

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 21:12 UTC

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  in reply to: Davidmanheim’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  Deontology can’t help you differentiate between charities or impactful careers. Only utilitarianism can, right?

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 21:10 UTC

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  in reply to: MarcusAbramovitch’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  I don’t know man, virtue signaling to non-vegans and vegans that you care about animals can be done simply by telling people you donate 10% of your money to animal welfare. It doesn’t take much more than that. Utilitarianism can be explained.

  As for lowering cognitive dissonance, this is an extremely person to person thing. I would never prescribe veganism to an EA with this reasoning. And this this was a common reason, why haven’t I also been told to have a pet/​animal companion to increase how much moral worth I give animals?

  And reducing daily suffering that you cause can also be done better with an extra 10 cents or so. Wouldn’t this be more in accordance with your values? Surely 10 cents is also cheaper than veganism.

  Sorry if I sound attacking.

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 20:59 UTC

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  in reply to: sammyboiz’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  We are imperfect and we need to prioritize the most important actions to reduce suffering. We don’t have infinite energy. A lifetime of veganism is difficult. Making or saving $1000 is comparatively not.

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 20:53 UTC

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  in reply to: Alexander Herwix 🔸’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  I am not maximally EA and I assume you aren’t either. (In the sense that we aren’t spending every living second trying to generate impact). We both have some level of commitment towards altruism that we are willing to put in. I believe that spending effort to be vegan has a cost, if I spent that time making more money, I could do more for the world. Therefore yes, my taste is more important the life of the an animal.

  I can ask you a similar question: Do you believe spending time on your hobby yesterday is more valuable than the life of the animals that you could have saved?

  As for pollution, I can say that my commute is more important that the impact of my emissions because I can outweigh my suffering caused through donations.

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 20:21 UTC

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  in reply to: Jeff Kaufman 🔸’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  I believe that honesty and acting according to your values is more important. If your value is EU maximization, then your actions and opinion should reflect that. I didn’t appreciate that I learned veganism through EA only to discover that it may be an order of magnitude less effective than animal welfare donations. I think EAs should also not forget they need to signal to each other. I think many EAs have been given the message “go vegan to reduce suffering,” but not “animal welfare is the most effective way to help animals.”

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 20:15 UTC

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  in reply to: Jeff Kaufman 🔸’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  I put this one back up and took the other one down. Thx

My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

• sammyboiz 16 Dec 2024 19:58 UTC

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  in reply to: Jeff Kaufman 🔸’s comment on: My Prob­lem with Ve­ganism and Deontology

  Thank you for noticing, I wouldn’t have lol.

[Question] Can I put EA on my re­sume?

• sammyboiz 2 Oct 2024 18:04 UTC

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  on: AI Safety Univer­sity Or­ga­niz­ing: Early Take­aways from Thir­teen Groups

  WOW this is incredible. As an EA uni group organizer running a fellowship, this is insanely helpful for me. Forwarding this to my AIS uni group organizer friend!

• sammyboiz 29 Aug 2024 0:24 UTC

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  in reply to: Vasco Grilo🔸’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  Sorry I meant compared to doing nothing. I’m mainly concerned about specifically the consequence of increased meat consumption and also factory farming from GH&D.

• sammyboiz 27 Aug 2024 1:57 UTC

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  in reply to: Ben Millwood🔸’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  Im worried that the chunk of EA that is concerned with effective human nearterm charities are all at risk of being net negative

• sammyboiz 25 Aug 2024 4:09 UTC

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  in reply to: quila’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  great reply

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 21:11 UTC

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  in reply to: Constance Li’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  You would still have to deal with the increase in factory farming and per capita meat consumption that comes with societal development.

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 20:57 UTC

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  in reply to: Vasco Grilo🔸’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  Hi Vasco, I first learned about the meat eater problem from your post. Thank you for your insight.

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 16:54 UTC

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  in reply to: JoshYou’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  Im getting at that most people would would not go out of their way to save baby Hitler. I value Hitler’s life, but I also wouldn’t save his life.

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 9:10 UTC

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  in reply to: Judd Rosenblatt’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  I would probably believe the poorest most rural parts of Africa would not be able to contribute to lab-grown meat development before it is brought efficiently to market. Furthermore, these parts of the world would likely be the last to adopt lab-gorwn meat.

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 9:06 UTC

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  in reply to: Brad West🔸’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  its an extremely important topic that has extreme ramifications such as concluding that a large portion of global health and development could possibly be negative utility! It also entails a degree of misanthropy which affects how we think about X-risk and the utility of society today. If EA were to ignore this problem with my previous statements being true, most of the movement would be misguided. It is therefore an extremely important problem IMO.

• sammyboiz 23 Aug 2024 9:00 UTC

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  in reply to: dstudioscode’s comment on: How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem

  Thanks for your response, im in the same boat as you it seems.

[Question] How do you deal with the “meat eater” problem