Aaron Gertler 🔸

• Aaron Gertler 🔸May 4, 2025, 4:07 AM

  12 points

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  on: E2G help available

  If you’re open to disclosing this, how many people reached out to you about the position? I’m curious about the Forum’s overall level of appetite for ETG-oriented posts like this, which I think could be written for many other jobs too!

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 20, 2024, 10:01 PM

  3 points

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  in reply to: AGB 🔸’s comment on: AMA: 10 years of Earn­ing To Give

  Thanks!

  ETFs do sound like a big win. I suppose someone could look at them as “finance solving a problem that finance created” (if the “problem” is e.g. expensive mutual funds). But even the mutual funds may be better than the “state of nature” (people buying individual stocks based on personal preference?). And expensive funds being outpaced by cheaper, better products sounds like finance working the way any competitive market should.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 12, 2024, 7:23 PM

  8 points

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  on: AMA: 10 years of Earn­ing To Give

  This isn’t about your giving per se, but have your views on the moral valence of financial trading changed in any notable ways since you spoke about this on the 80K podcast?

  (I have no reason to think your views have changed, but was reading a socialist/​anti-finance critique of EA yesterday and thought of your podcast.)

  The episode page lacks a transcript, but does include this summary: “There are arguments both that quant trading is socially useful, and that it is socially harmful. Having investigated these, Alex thinks that it is highly likely to be beneficial for the world.”

  In that section (starts around 43:00), you talk about market-making, selling goods “across time” in the way other businesses sell them across space, and generally helping sellers “communicate” by adjusting prices in sensible ways. At the same time, you acknowledge that market-making might be less useful than in the past and that more finance people on the margin might not provide much extra social value (since markets are so fast/​advanced/​liquid at this point).

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 1, 2024, 3:44 AM

  2 points

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  on: Ad­vi­sors for Smaller Ma­jor Donors?

  I used to work as a part-time advisor and ops person for a family foundation (no actual staff) that gave away ~$500k annually; they’ve worked with several other people since then.

  Much of my advisory time was spent researching and evaluating fairly small grants (workable for someone in the $20k-100k range), since the foundation’s “experimental/​non-GiveWell” budget was a small fraction of the total. I think I could have done this work for a group of 10-20 clients of that size at a time if I’d been a full-time advisor.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Sep 25, 2024, 4:16 AM

  17 points

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  in reply to: John Salter’s comment on: An­nounc­ing the Lead Ex­po­sure Ac­tion Fund

  As a starting point, you can see the Fund’s current goals here, and the grants made so far here.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Jun 22, 2024, 2:06 AM

  70 points

  13 ∶ 1

  on: Why I’m leaving

  Again, I’m aware that concrete, impactful projects and people still exist within EA. But in the public sphere accessible to me, their influence and visibility are increasingly diminishing, while indirect high-impact approaches via highly speculative expected value calculations become more prominent and dominant.

  This has probably been what many people experienced over the last few years, especially as the rest of the world also started getting into AI.

  But I think it’s possible to counteract by curating one’s own “public sphere” instead.

  For example, you could follow all of your favorite charities and altruistic projects on Twitter. This might be a good starting point. For inspiration, you could also check the follow lists of places like Open Phil (my employer; we follow a ton of our grantees) or CEA’s “official EA” account. Throw in Dylan Matthews and Kelsey Piper while you’re at it; Future Perfect publishes content across many cause areas. And finally, at the risk of sounding biased, I’ll note that Alexander Berger has one of the best EA-flavored research feeds I know of.

  If you mostly follow concrete, visibly impactful projects, Twitter will start throwing more of those your way. I assume you’ll start seeing development economists and YIMBYs working on local policy — at least, that’s what happened to me. And maybe some of those people have blogs you want to follow, or respond when you comment on their stuff, and suddenly you find yourself floating peacefully among a bunch of adjacent-to-EA communities focused on things that excite you.

  The Forum also lets you filter by topic pretty aggressively, hiding or highlighting whatever tags you want. You just have to click “Customize feed” at the top of the homepage...

  

  ...and follow these instructions. (You might be familiar with this, but many Forum users aren’t, so I figured I’d mention it.)

  Of course, it’s not essential for anyone to follow a bunch of “EA content” — your plan of donating to and supporting projects you like is a good one. But if you previously enjoyed reading the Forum, and find it annoying as of late, it may be possible to restore (or improve upon!) your earlier experience and end up with a lot of stuff to read.

  What links here?

  • Treat fu­ture you like a differ­ent per­son—in­vest in your motivation by Alex Dial (Dec 14, 2024, 3:28 PM; 97 points)

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Jun 13, 2024, 11:08 AM

  2 points

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  in reply to: Bella’s comment on: My first EAG: a mix of feelings

  I’d have benefited from that kind of nudge myself! I was aware of 80K for years but never even considered coaching.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸May 30, 2024, 10:40 AM

  0 points

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  on: Is this a weird way for me to donate to char­ity?

  From a consequentialist perspective, I think you’re better off sticking to digital — it takes a lot of time to sell things online, and you could be using that time for some combination of work and fun that would leave everyone better off (unless you place a very high value on physical manga).

  Low-confidence idea: It might help to find some small ritual/​mantra that you can use when you donate (or invest, etc.) the money you would have spent on physical manga — something along the lines of “I’m making the right decision” or “this is better for everyone”.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Apr 28, 2024, 10:17 PM

  3 points

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  in reply to: Remmelt’s comment on: Dear EA, please be the rea­son peo­ple like me will ac­tu­ally see a bet­ter world. Help me make some small stride on ex­treme poverty where I live—by the end of 2024.

  Thanks for sharing your views!

  Have you written anything about your own take on the project, and how it compares to other donation options you were considering?

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Apr 28, 2024, 2:49 AM

  10 points

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  on: Make Con­flict of In­ter­est Poli­cies Public

  Open Philanthropy has published a summary of the conflict of interest of policy we use. (Adding it as another example despite the age of this thread, since I expect people may still reference the thread in the future to find examples of COI policies.)

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Apr 4, 2024, 11:46 AM

  11 points

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  in reply to: James Herbert’s comment on: James Her­bert’s Shortform

  I think of EA as a broad movement, similar to environmentalism — much smaller, of course, which leads to some natural centralization in terms of e.g. the number of big conferences, but still relatively spread-out and heterogenous in terms of what people think about and work on.

  Anything that spans GiveWell, MIRI, and Mercy for Animals already seems broad to me, and that’s not accounting for hundreds of university/​city meetups around the world (some of which have funding, some of which don’t, and which I’m sure host people with a very wide range of views — if my time in such groups is any indication).

  That’s my way of saying that SMA seems at least EA-flavored, given the people behind it and many of the causes name-checked on the website. At a glance, it seems pretty low on the “measuring impact” scale, but you could say the same of many orgs that are EA-flavored. I’d be totally unsurprised to see people go through an SMA program and end up at EA Global, or to see an SMA alumnus create a charity that Open Phil eventually funds.

  (There may be some other factor you’re thinking of when you think of breadth — I could see arguments for both sides of the question!)

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Apr 1, 2024, 11:01 PM

  7 points

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  in reply to: Vasco Grilo🔸’s comment on: Open Philan­thropy: Our Progress in 2023 and Plans for 2024

  Hi Vasco,

  Thanks for asking these questions.

  I work on Open Phil’s communications team. Regarding how Open Phil thinks about allocating between human and animal interventions, this comment from Emily (the one you linked in your own comment) is the best summary of our current thinking.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Mar 16, 2024, 4:24 AM

  3 points

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  in reply to: Augustin Portier’s comment on: Re­cov­er­ing from Re­jec­tion (writ­ten for the In-Depth EA Pro­gram)

  I’m glad to hear you liked the piece! Best of luck with everything.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Feb 7, 2024, 12:07 AM

  10 points

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  on: Round­ing Up Effec­tively at Supermarkets

  When I started Yale’s student EA group in 2014, we tried a bit of this (albeit with pharmacies, not grocery stores). IIRC, we got as far as a meeting with CVS’s head of corporate social responsibility (CSR), plus a few other conversations.

  The companies we spoke to were choosing large, well-known charities. This was partly because of their branding (easier to pick up positive associations from charities people have actually heard of), partly because big charities tend to have highly appealing missions (e.g. St. Jude’s, which has used its “free care for children with cancer” pitch to become America’s fourth-largest charity), and partly (I’d guess) because the charities were easy to work with thanks to their size and staff capacity.

  I also suspect, from these and other CSR-related interactions I’ve had, that changing a charity choice is hard once it’s been made. The professionals I meet tend to form relationships with the charities and staffers they work with, and it’s hard to tell someone you’ve fired them for a more effective charity (forgive the link, it was too easy a joke to make).

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Jan 18, 2024, 8:47 PM

  5 points

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  in reply to: Vasco Grilo🔸’s comment on: New po­si­tions on Open Philan­thropy’s Cause Pri­ori­ti­za­tion team (Global Health and Wel­lbe­ing)

  We don’t currently have concrete plans for this, but it’s something we might consider doing in the future; if we do, we’ll post about it on the Forum.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 21, 2023, 10:15 AM

  6 points

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  on: Writ­ing about my (old) job: Fish­eries sci­en­tist in government

  I love that we’re still seeing new “writing about my job” (WAMJ?) posts 2.5 years after the initial post, especially for jobs like this one that are on the obscure side (and thus unlikely to be covered by 80,000 Hours, Probably Good, or other career-focused resources).

  Thanks for taking the time to share this!

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 20, 2023, 5:12 PM

  8 points

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  in reply to: NickLaing’s comment on: Sugges­tions for In­di­vi­d­ual Donors from Open Philan­thropy Staff – 2023

  I’m an OP staffer who helped to put the post together. Thanks for the nitpicks!

  I suppose I’m asking what’s the benefit of this format over individual recommendations?

  I see the main benefit as convenience. If I’d asked OP staff to write individual Forum posts, I’d have gotten less interest than I did with “send me a few sentences and you can be part of a larger post”. Writing an entire post is a bigger hurdle, and I think some people would feel weird writing a post just a few sentences long (even if the alternative was “no post”).

  Why should I put any more weight on a recommendation from an OpenPhil staff rather than any other EA person who had thought a lot about this?

  I don’t necessarily think you should.

  But I personally put at least moderate weight on recommendations from people in research roles who’ve thought a lot about an issue, inside or outside of OP. (I like the GiveWell “where our people give” posts for the same reason!) I wish we had more charity recommendations from such people. And at OP, we’ve heard from enough people who find these posts valuable that we thought it was worth putting another one together.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Dec 13, 2023, 5:52 PM

  36 points

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  in reply to: Robi Rahman’s comment on: Non­lin­ear’s Ev­i­dence: De­bunk­ing False and Mislead­ing Claims

  The Glassdoor numbers are outdated. We share salary information in our job postings; you can see examples here ($84K/​year plus a $12k 401k contribution for an Operations Assistant) and here (a variety of roles, almost all of which start at $100k or more per year — search “compensation:” to see details).

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Nov 3, 2023, 9:55 AM

  5 points

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  on: Any­one tried to mon­e­tize a hobby with the in­tent of ETG?

  Depends on the hobby and how good you are. Some things are relatively easy to monetize (you can teach lessons or do live performances), but even in those cases, you’ll be competing with people who do your “hobby” as their job, and you’re probably better off doing more of whatever your job is (working extra hours, freelancing...).

  The thing I do is play games in tournaments, which is less common that streaming/​gigging/​etc., so this analysis may be of limited value, but: I’ve made something like $75,000 playing Magic: the Gathering and Storybook Brawl over the last four years (donating ~80% of that), but it took thousands of hours to do so, and a few unlucky turns of a card could have cost me most of the money. And I’m in the top 0.01% among people who try to play those games seriously in terms of success; many people roughly as good as me have put in more time to earn less.

• Aaron Gertler 🔸Oct 18, 2023, 10:02 PM

  3 points

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  in reply to: Lizka’s comment on: AMA: Six Open Philan­thropy staffers dis­cuss OP’s new GCR hiring round

  Thanks! I’ve added a direct link to the roles now, to reduce potential confusion.