ezrah

• ezrah 9 Apr 2024 15:07 UTC

  3 points

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  on: Cost-effec­tive­ness of The In­tro­duc­tory EA Pro­gram and 80,000 Hours’ 1-on-1 program

  Very interesting!
  
  Thanks for the writeup
  
  I’d be very interested in seeing a continuation in regards to outcomes (maybe career changes could be a proxy for impact?)
  
  Also, curious how you would think about the added value of a career call or participation in a program? Given that a person made a career change, obviously the career call with 80k isn’t 100% responsible for the change, but probably not 0% either (if the call was successful).

• ezrah 7 Apr 2024 6:20 UTC

  28 points

  11 ∶ 0

  on: ezrah’s Quick takes

  Please advertise applications at least 4 weeks before closing! (more for fellowships!)
  
  I’ve seen a lot of cool job postings, fellowships, or other opportunities that post that applications are open the forum or on 80k ~10 days before closing.
  
  Because many EA roles or opportunities often get cross-posted to other platforms or newsletters, and there’s a built in lag-time between the original post and the secondary platform, this is especially relevant to EA. For fellowships or similar training programs, where so much work has gone into planning and designing the program ahead of time, I would really encourage to open applications ~2 months before closing. Keep in mind that most forum posts don’t stay on the frontpage very long, so “posting something on the forum” does not equal “the EA community has seen this”.

  As someone who runs a local group and a newsletter, opportunities with short application times are almost always missed by my community, since there’s not enough turnaround time between when we see the original post, the next newsletter, and time for community members to apply.

ezrah’s Quick takes

• ezrah 1 Apr 2024 11:42 UTC

  17 points

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  on: Ex­cerpts From The EA Talmud

  Rashi on “categories of labor”—although some learners of the EA Talmud have been known to include commenting on forums and debating philosophical turns of phrase within their definition of “labor”, the Mishna is making a chiddush and excluding types of “labor” that cannot be of assistance when building a large tent. Nafka mina (emerges from it) the understanding that how-to youtube videos would be categorized as labor, by a rabbinical—not biblical—decree, but longwinded comments on obscure posts are not.

• ezrah 27 Mar 2024 9:59 UTC

  1 point

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  on: An­nounc­ing Un­finishedIm­pact: Give your aban­doned pro­jects a sec­ond chance

  Where can I see the projects that were submitted?

• ezrah 22 Feb 2024 10:39 UTC

  3 points

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  in reply to: Mo Putera’s comment on: Can we help in­di­vi­d­ual peo­ple cost-effec­tively? Our trial with three sick kids

  Great question! I realize that I really wasn’t clear, and that it probably does exist more in EA than my instinctive impression (also—great links, I hadn’t been familiar with all of them).
  
  What I meant by leverage was more along the lines of “the value of insider’s perspective and the ability to leverage individual networks and skill sets”. In these cases, Nick was able to identify potential cost-effective ways to save lives because of both his training and location, and SACH is able to similarly have a cost-effective program because of their close connections with a hospital. I have a few other examples as well, such as NALA’s WASH on Wheel’s program (which essentially trains a team a plumbers and provides access to clean water to hundreds of program, leveraging the existing infrastructure), and anecdotes I’ve heard about people on the ground being able to provide crucial solutions during the current Israel-Hamas crisis.
  
  I have a sense that the classic EA (and I could very much be strawmanning here) thinks along the lines of: big problems, good solutions, niche area—but doesn’t think about who is best placed to identify or implement even better solutions that can come up because the world is messy.
  
  After thinking about it, the “leverage” I’m referring to is probably more common than I thought, but maybe not so very well defined.

• ezrah 22 Feb 2024 10:27 UTC

  1 point

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  in reply to: gewind’s comment on: Can we help in­di­vi­d­ual peo­ple cost-effec­tively? Our trial with three sick kids

  From what I understand, the per-patient treatments costs are both quite low and are given pro-bono, so given how GiveWell understands leverage (which @Mo Putera pointed out in the response below), they should be strongly discounted from the costs. The question of how to incorporate the infrastructure costs, ie—the hospital, staff training, etc—that enable the program to operate, is quite interesting, and I honestly don’t have a great idea how that fits into the model.

• ezrah 21 Feb 2024 23:35 UTC

  13 points

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  on: Can we help in­di­vi­d­ual peo­ple cost-effec­tively? Our trial with three sick kids

  Loved this post. Like sawyer wrote—it made me emotional and made me think, and feels like a great example of what EA should be.
  
  There actually is a non-profit I’m aware of (no affiliation) that hits a lot of the criteria mentioned in the comments—https://​​saveachildsheart.org/​​, they treat life-threatening heart disease in developing countries, often by paying for transportation to Israel where the children receive pro-bono treatment from a hospital the nonprofit has a partnership with. From a (very) quick look at their financial statements and annual report, it looks like it costs them around ~$6,300 to save a life, although that number could be significantly off in either direction (by looking through the annual report, it looks like the nonprofit is not especially focused on the most cost-effective parts of its programming, and does many activities that look like PR, which is probably morally good if it allows them to scale. On the other hand, it’s not clear from the AR what the severity of the disease is in the children treated, and what share of their treatments are actually life saving).
  
  Your post, and nonprofits like this, make me think of something EA often misses from it’s birds-eye approach to solutions—leverage. Both you and saveachildsheart use their leverage (your proximity, their partnership with a first world medical institution) to be impressively cost-effective, but leverage is hard to spot in a-priori spreadsheets.

• ezrah 12 Dec 2023 17:24 UTC

  14 points

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  on: EA thoughts from Is­rael-Ha­mas war

  To everyone who replied with messages of support and wishes for a better world—thank you, I’m really glad that the EA community has people such as you, especially in such difficult times.

• ezrah 12 Dec 2023 17:19 UTC

  4 points

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  in reply to: Dawn Drescher’s comment on: EA thoughts from Is­rael-Ha­mas war

  From what I’ve seen, peace building initiatives are more a matter of taste than proven effectiveness.

  And I would wait until after the war to understand which orgs are able to effectively deliver aid to Gazans who have been affected, things will be clearer then. Now everything is complicated by the political /​ military situation.

• ezrah 12 Dec 2023 16:22 UTC

  20 points

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  in reply to: Ofer’s comment on: EA thoughts from Is­rael-Ha­mas war

  Hi Ofer

  Thanks for responding.

  I agree with all of the facts you present in your comment! and I don’t at all think that the Israeli government is trustworthy or is trying to maximise general wellbeing, and I think that they, like most sovereign countries, value the lives of their citizens and soldiers significantly more than civilians on the other side. I don’t know if that’s good for the world, but it is how governments operate. I do think that there is effort being made to minimise civilian causalities, but I have no idea how much.

  The point I was trying to make was more to caution against joining protests /​ building models without taking into account second-order effects or the broader context and interests of players. I think it’s quite plausible that a long term ceasefire could be better than the current policies (obviously for Gazans, but maybe even for Israelis), or that a third-option—say, creating a global coalition for sanctions and targeted killings against Hamas leadership, without widespread warfare—would be the welfare maximising option. But, as Guy points out, you need a lot of context, and I didn’t feel a need to lay out the case for them, since the ceasefire call is widespread and intuitive.

  Also, there’s a (small) chance that the current Israeli policy is actually welfare maximising, which should be taken into account. I dislike the current Israeli leadership and am embarrassed that they represent me and my country, but that doesn’t mean they’re always wrong, so I try to not dismiss their positions out of hand. For context, the “no ceasefire” posution had a pretty broad support across the spectrum in Israel.

  Finally—I find it hilarious that that Israelis talking about politics is being followed closely on the forum, so thanks again for your comment.

EA thoughts from Is­rael-Ha­mas war

• ezrah 31 Aug 2023 7:42 UTC

  5 points

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  in reply to: david_reinstein’s comment on: Lo­cal char­ity eval­u­a­tion: Les­sons from the “Max­i­mum Im­pact” Pro­gram in Israel

  Hi!
  
  From what I understand from conversations with SmokeFree Israel’s staff (which admittedly might be biased) is that they were the only body pushing the legislation forward, and they had to work AGAINST the existing legislation. SFI wokred to fix problematic loopholes in the update to the tobacco taxation policy that had recently been passed, and petitioned to external legal bodies to help force the government to put the policy back on the agenda. They also provided the data and expert opinions that were pivotal in the discussions within the legislature once the issue had returned to the agenda.
  
  Regarding room for funding—that point is entirely valid. We don’t think that SFI replaces AMF or MC as a top charity that everyone should donate to, but is evidence that more highly cost-effective opportunities exist if you look for them.

Lo­cal char­ity eval­u­a­tion: Les­sons from the “Max­i­mum Im­pact” Pro­gram in Israel

• ezrah 4 Jun 2023 7:50 UTC

  3 points

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  in reply to: Cornelis Dirk Haupt’s comment on: Should the EA com­mu­nity be cause-first or mem­ber-first?

  To emphasize Cornelis’s point:
  
  I’ve noticed that most of the tension that a “cause-first” model has is that it’s “cause” in the singular, and not “causes” (ie—people who join EA because of GHWB and Animal Welfare but then discover that at EAG everyone is only talking about AI). Marcus claims that EA’s success is based on cause-first, and brings examples:
  
  ”The EA community was at the forefront of pushing AI safety to the mainstream. It has started several new charities. It’s responsible for a lot of wins for animals. It’s responsible for saving hundreds of thousands of lives. It’s about the only place out there that measures charities, and does so with a lot of rigor. ”

  But I think that in practice, when someone today is calling for “cause-first EA”, they’re calling for “longtermist /​ AI safety focused EA”. The diversity of the examples above seem to support a “members-first EA” (at least as outlined in this post).

• ezrah 28 May 2023 10:41 UTC

  2 points

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  on: It is good for EA fun­ders to have seats on boards of orgs they fund [de­bate]

  Great post, I’m glad this is up for debate.
  
  I’m mostly worried about situations where the majority of the board is made up of different representatives of a single funder /​ donor. For the example of Claire—I think it’s fine that she represents OP interests to CEA. I’m more worried when the other board members and executives are also very strongly OP affiliated—then it seems like the nonprofits ability to carry out it’s mission is harmed. If a nonprofit has an appearance of independence but in practice is managed /​ owned by a different organization, that seems problematic. Of course, in the case of CEA, I have no idea what went into the decision making process and what the counterfactual looks like (for example—where there other people who wanted that role?), and it’s quite possible there are good reasons for this especially post FTX, so I’m less critiquing the results and more of a process that looks like philanthropy → nonprofit, but in practice is parent company → subsidiary.

A Differ­ent Ap­proach to Com­mu­nity Build­ing: The Spiral Path to Im­pact

• ezrah 4 May 2023 7:28 UTC

  10 points

  3 ∶ 0

  on: First clean wa­ter, now clean air

  Excellent post, and great work on the research report!
  
  From a narrative perspective I think the analogy between Clean Water and Clean Air is great. However, I’m wondering if from a R&D and implementation perspective a more fitting analogy would be clean cooking fuel, heating or solar power (which you do mention). Clean water systems need large investment in infrastructure and government implementation upfront, as much as they need more technological advancement, since Clean Water is a public good. Indoor Clean Air, or at least the solutions you described above, don’t need large infrastructure or government investment. The quality of the air in my house or office is a private good. The private market can develop the R&D and market directly to consumers, without the need for the government to step in, as long as there’s consumer interest.
  
  The fact that the TOC for Clean Air Indoors doesn’t need to go through government makes me more optimistic about success (although of course if there are government standards and gov R&D spending, it will go faster).
  
  On the other hand, perhaps Indoor Clean Air is more similar to lead paint regulation, where the individual consumer isn’t aware enough of the dangers and benefits, even though theoretically it’s more lucrative to sell safe paint than poisonous paint.

EA Is­rael: 2022 Progress and 2023 Plans

• ezrah 9 Feb 2023 20:56 UTC

  7 points

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  on: Men­tal Health Ca­reer Program

  Love this idea as a new format for university groups! Let’s not just focus broadly on undergrads, but get people who already have specific skills and expertise to think deeply about their chosen field.