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Executive Director of the Swift Centre for Applied Forecasting (led projects with U.K. Gov., Google DeepMind, and on AI security and capability risks).
Co-founder of ‘Looking for Growth’ - a political movement for growth in the U.K.
CTO of Praxis—a AI led assessment platform for schools
Former Head of Policy at ControlAI (co-authored ‘A Narrow Path’)
Former Director of Impactful Government Careers
Former Head of Development Policy at HM Treasury
Former Head of Strategy at the Centre for Data Ethics and Innovation
Former Senior Policy Advisor at HM Treasury, leading on the economic and financial response to the war in Ukraine, and the modelling and allocation of the UK’s ‘Official Development Assistance’ budget.
MSc in Cognitive and Decision Sciences from UCL, my dissertation was an experimental study using Bayesian reasoning to improve predictive reasoning and forecasting in U.K. public policy officials and analysts
I think the issue is arising from a simple miscommunication.
You seem to be arguing that improving taste has some sort of intrinsic social value in and of itself, that warrants funding. My argument has been, from the start, that if the goal is to maximise uptake of meat alternatives then what is the proof better tasting products is the best method to achieve that and that there is evidence of a market failure there.
Your argument hinges on taste being the value we want here. I reject that as a premise. The value the RFP wants is better uptake of the meat alternatives. And there are big market players that are fundamentally incentivised to solve that (and can raise capital if they prove there will be the returns—I.e. the actual uptake and not just vague “of course if it’s tastier more people will eat it”).
To be as explicit as I can to reply to your argument: your Apple example proves my point above. Your causal chain in that argument is:
More storage → better insect welfare = win
Apple don’t care about insect welfare (I assume). They care about more users and thus more profit. Thus they aren’t incentivised to solve any part of that causal chain.
This RFPs causal chain is not like that, it’s:
Tastier meat alternatives —> more people eat meat alternatives —> less animal suffering = win
Beyond Meat, even if they don’t care about the end goal (which I assume they probably do), do care about solving the middle part, which is the predictor to the less animal suffering end goal. Given that, if tastier meat was the best way to achieve that, they’d be able to raise capital. If they couldn’t, it’d suggest there wouldn’t be enough uptake from such a move—which means bad value for money and thus either we’ve hit the limit of the number of people who will eat meat alternatives, or it is not an efficient way to increase uptake.
Not to get distracted but to avoid being criticised for not answering your point again: Separately, I also disagree with the foundational research point—in that I think the choice of that is a function of this being philanthropic funds, rather than because it’s solving a market problem such as inability to patent the research or keep it secret. Evidence being: all the food manufacturers who spend money making their food taste better and keep their recipes secret.