Thanks for the follow up!
I completely agree, and I too was troubled by this analysis. For me, the bottom line is:The fact that something is of little-to-no cost, does not mean that its moral value is also little.Furthermore, in cases like reducing animal suffering, one can both avoid being harmful himself (i.e. become vegan) AND donate to relevant charities, rather than OR.
Good to know!
Is there any information about Founders Pledge research project?
Oh I see, I misunderstood you.
Thanks, looking forward to the episode to come out.
Thank you for this answer (and the rest of them!).
Could you link to that podcast episode on advising?
First of all, I think it is a reasonable assumption that there are only finitely many people in the universe, in which case the order does not matter.
Also, of course the location of people matter. If you move all earth people at this moment to mars, we will all suffer and die. In the same way, say there 100 other galaxies in which there is another earth. Move all of these people here, and we will have an enormous over population.
Hey, this might not really help, but here’s a rough idea. I can think about it more thoroughly, or we can discuss this at some time, if you want.
Maybe you shouldn’t consider the situation as two possibilities of a finite universe or infinite universe. An infinite universe is the limit of finite universes. Perhaps then you should consider an infinite universe as a sequence of finite universes, whose limit is indeed infinite, and work with that.
So for example, you will compute the difference in value in each of the finite universes, and take the limit of that, and use this as the value for the infinite universe.
This is a standard method in math and in physics. For example, in math this is formalized in pro categories (such as profinite groups), and in physics this is a sort of renormalization/regularization.
Not exactly answering your question, but I think this argument (and follow up question) neglect an important aspect of your contribution.
Having more vegetarian and vegan people creates an incentive to develop meat substitutes (e.g. beyond meat, impossible).If those substitutes, and especially clean meat, will hold up to their promise (i.e. cheaper, taste just as good, and be at least as healthy as regular meat), it will have the potential to change the meat industry dramatically.In this situation, way more people may become vegetarian or vegan due to economical or health reasons.