RSS

Pa­tient altruism

TagLast edit: Nov 2, 2022, 9:53 AM by brook

Patient altruism (sometimes called patient longtermism) is the view that individuals can have a greater positive impact by investing current altruistic resources and spending them later than by spending them now. These resources include both financial and non-financial resources.

The narrower view that altruists should invest and later donate financial resources, instead of donating them now, is sometimes called patient philanthropy, although these expressions are sometimes used interchangeably.

Further reading

Baumann, Tobias (2020) Thoughts on patient philanthropy, Reducing Risks of Future Suffering, September 8.

Todd, Benjamin (2020) The emerging school of patient longtermism, 80,000 Hours, August 7.

Trammell, Philip (2021) Dynamic public good provision under time preference heterogeneity: Theory and applications to philanthropy, unpublished.

Wiblin, Robert, Howie Lempel & Keiran Harris (2020) How becoming a “patient philanthropist” could allow you to do far more good, 80,000 Hours, March 17.
Interview with Phil Trammell.

Related entries

hinge of history | investing | longtermism | timing of philanthropy

“Pa­tient vs ur­gent longter­mism” has lit­tle di­rect bear­ing on giv­ing now vs later

Owen Cotton-BarrattDec 9, 2020, 2:58 PM
178 points
32 comments6 min readEA link

Ram­sey and In­ter­gen­er­a­tional Welfare Eco­nomics—Stan­ford En­cy­clo­pe­dia of Philosophy

Eevee🔹May 24, 2023, 12:27 AM
14 points
1 comment2 min readEA link
(plato.stanford.edu)

US bill limit­ing pa­tient philan­thropy?

Max_DanielJun 24, 2021, 10:14 PM
95 points
11 comments4 min readEA link
(www.nytimes.com)

An­nounc­ing the Pa­tient Philan­thropy Fund

Sjir Hoeijmakers🔸Oct 27, 2021, 3:44 PM
131 points
7 comments1 min readEA link

Cru­cial ques­tions about op­ti­mal timing of work and donations

MichaelA🔸Aug 14, 2020, 8:43 AM
45 points
4 comments27 min readEA link

Long-term in­vest­ment fund at Founders Pledge

Sjir Hoeijmakers🔸Jan 10, 2020, 7:09 PM
138 points
28 comments3 min readEA link

Earn­ing to Save (Give 1%, Save 10%)

RaemonNov 26, 2018, 11:47 PM
91 points
39 comments3 min readEA link

Earn­ing to give may be the best op­tion for pa­tient EAs

JackMDec 26, 2021, 10:26 AM
31 points
5 comments6 min readEA link

[Question] In­vest­ing to donate vs get­ting tax re­lief (UK-fo­cussed)

ClimateDocApr 2, 2023, 8:55 PM
17 points
9 comments1 min readEA link

Don’t wait: The case for giv­ing sooner rather than later

Luke FreemanDec 2, 2020, 2:35 AM
11 points
0 comments5 min readEA link
(www.vox.com)

[Question] What do you think about the “Ini­ti­a­tive to Ac­cel­er­ate Char­i­ta­ble Giv­ing”, a new US leg­is­la­tive pro­posal? Yay or nay?

Rakeen TanvirDec 15, 2020, 3:56 PM
22 points
1 comment1 min readEA link

An ar­gu­ment for keep­ing open the op­tion of earn­ing to save

Benjamin_ToddAug 31, 2020, 3:09 PM
34 points
13 comments3 min readEA link

Op­ti­mal Allo­ca­tion of Spend­ing on Ex­is­ten­tial Risk Re­duc­tion over an In­finite Time Hori­zon (in a too sim­plis­tic model)

Yassin AlayaAug 12, 2021, 8:14 PM
13 points
4 comments1 min readEA link

A Toy Model of Hingeyness

Bob Jacobs 🔸Sep 7, 2020, 5:34 PM
11 points
6 comments5 min readEA link

Move­ment build­ing and in­vest­ing to give later

abergalJul 15, 2020, 10:46 PM
48 points
5 comments2 min readEA link

Some thoughts on Pa­tient Longtermism

noraMar 15, 2021, 9:13 AM
46 points
6 comments3 min readEA link

The op­ti­mal timing of spend­ing on AGI safety work; why we should prob­a­bly be spend­ing more now

Tristan CookOct 24, 2022, 5:42 PM
92 points
12 comments36 min readEA link

Are we liv­ing at the most in­fluen­tial time in his­tory?

William_MacAskillSep 3, 2019, 4:55 AM
204 points
147 comments24 min readEA link

In­vest­ing to Give: FP Re­search Report

Sjir Hoeijmakers🔸Oct 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
94 points
10 comments10 min readEA link

Phil Tram­mell on Eco­nomic Growth Un­der Trans­for­ma­tive AI

Michaël TrazziOct 24, 2021, 6:10 PM
10 points
0 comments53 min readEA link
(youtu.be)

Phil Tram­mell: The case for ig­nor­ing the world’s cur­rent prob­lems — or how be­com­ing a ‘pa­tient philan­thropist’ could al­low you to do far more good

PabloMar 17, 2020, 5:00 PM
29 points
5 comments1 min readEA link
(80000hours.org)

The Philan­thropist’s Paradox

MichaelPlantJun 24, 2017, 10:23 AM
2 points
15 comments11 min readEA link

A prac­ti­cal guide to long-term plan­ning – and sug­ges­tions for longtermism

weeatquinceOct 10, 2021, 3:37 PM
140 points
13 comments24 min readEA link

Should an­i­mal ad­vo­cates donate now or later? A few con­sid­er­a­tions and a re­quest for more.

MichaelStJulesNov 13, 2019, 7:30 AM
25 points
3 comments3 min readEA link

Donor-Ad­vised Funds vs. Tax­able Ac­counts for Pa­tient Donors

MichaelDickensOct 19, 2020, 8:38 PM
44 points
15 comments10 min readEA link

How Do AI Timelines Affect Giv­ing Now vs. Later?

MichaelDickensAug 3, 2021, 3:36 AM
36 points
8 comments8 min readEA link

Thoughts on pa­tient philanthropy

Tobias_BaumannSep 8, 2020, 12:00 PM
14 points
5 comments1 min readEA link
(s-risks.org)

My per­sonal cruxes for fo­cus­ing on ex­is­ten­tial risks /​ longter­mism /​ any­thing other than just video games

MichaelA🔸Apr 13, 2021, 5:50 AM
55 points
28 comments3 min readEA link

Giv­ing Now

D12Dec 21, 2020, 1:49 AM
4 points
1 comment2 min readEA link

Should We Pri­ori­tize Long-Term Ex­is­ten­tial Risk?

MichaelDickensAug 20, 2020, 2:23 AM
28 points
17 comments3 min readEA link

Es­ti­mat­ing the Philan­thropic Dis­count Rate

MichaelDickensJul 3, 2020, 4:58 PM
81 points
21 comments40 min readEA link

[Question] Me­tac­u­lus Ques­tions Suggest Money Will Do More Good in the Future

MichaelDickensJul 22, 2021, 1:56 AM
20 points
17 comments2 min readEA link

Ur­gency vs. Pa­tience—a Toy Model

Alex HTAug 19, 2020, 2:13 PM
39 points
4 comments4 min readEA link

Thoughts on “tra­jec­tory changes”

Eevee🔹Apr 7, 2021, 2:18 AM
16 points
0 comments1 min readEA link

[Question] Should pa­tient in­vestors try to cor­re­late port­fo­lio hold­ings with po­ten­tial cause ar­eas?

shepardspieJan 31, 2021, 10:11 PM
20 points
2 comments2 min readEA link

Some promis­ing ca­reer ideas be­yond 80,000 Hours’ pri­or­ity paths

Arden KoehlerJun 26, 2020, 10:34 AM
142 points
28 comments15 min readEA link

What would you do if you had half a mil­lion dol­lars?

Patrick Brinich-Langlois 🔸Jul 17, 2021, 4:18 PM
107 points
52 comments5 min readEA link

Giv­ing now vs. later: a summary

Julia_Wise🔸Jul 23, 2013, 4:00 AM
43 points
7 comments1 min readEA link

Can High-Yield In­vest­ing Be the Most Good You Can Do?

DisselkoenJul 27, 2020, 5:51 AM
14 points
6 comments5 min readEA link

Against the So­cial Dis­count Rate (Cowen & Parfit) - Weak refutations

Jørgen Ljønes🔸Aug 12, 2020, 3:06 PM
31 points
3 comments5 min readEA link

The emerg­ing school of pa­tient longtermism

80000_HoursAug 7, 2020, 4:28 PM
64 points
11 comments3 min readEA link

[Question] Why hasn’t EA found agree­ment on pa­tient and ur­gent longter­mism yet?

Simon SkadeNov 29, 2021, 9:52 PM
6 points
1 comment3 min readEA link

Model­ling Van­tage Points

Jaime SevillaJan 1, 2020, 4:50 PM
21 points
0 comments3 min readEA link

RPTP Is a Strong Rea­son to Con­sider Giv­ing Later

trammellOct 1, 2018, 4:27 PM
19 points
16 comments3 min readEA link

Thoughts on whether we’re liv­ing at the most in­fluen­tial time in history

BuckNov 3, 2020, 4:07 AM
178 points
66 comments9 min readEA link

Giv­ing Now vs. Later for Ex­is­ten­tial Risk: An Ini­tial Approach

MichaelDickensAug 29, 2020, 1:04 AM
14 points
2 comments28 min readEA link

Key­ne­sian Altruism

Grayden 🔸Sep 13, 2020, 12:18 PM
52 points
22 comments7 min readEA link

Don’t wait – there’s plenty more need and op­por­tu­nity today

GiveDirectlyNov 24, 2021, 2:56 PM
45 points
15 comments5 min readEA link

Seek­ing feed­back on new EA-al­igned eco­nomics paper

jhOct 21, 2021, 9:19 PM
35 points
13 comments1 min readEA link

Is effec­tive al­tru­ism grow­ing? An up­date on the stock of fund­ing vs. people

Benjamin_ToddJul 29, 2021, 11:47 AM
302 points
105 comments21 min readEA link

Giv­ing now vs. later

Paul_ChristianoMar 12, 2013, 4:00 AM
4 points
1 comment7 min readEA link

Re­v­erse-Eng­ineer­ing the Philan­thropic Dis­count Rate

MichaelDickensJul 9, 2021, 6:32 PM
30 points
0 comments19 min readEA link

A Model of Pa­tient Spend­ing and Move­ment Building

NunoSempereNov 8, 2021, 6:00 PM
92 points
27 comments4 min readEA link

The case for in­vest­ing to give later

Sjir Hoeijmakers🔸Jul 3, 2020, 3:23 PM
54 points
30 comments14 min readEA link

AGI and the EMH: mar­kets are not ex­pect­ing al­igned or un­al­igned AI in the next 30 years

basil.halperinJan 10, 2023, 4:05 PM
342 points
177 comments26 min readEA link

Phil Tram­mell: Philan­thropy timing and the hinge of history

EA GlobalFeb 11, 2020, 9:15 PM
22 points
1 comment13 min readEA link
(www.youtube.com)

[Question] Is there a study com­par­ing the effec­tive­ness of a Dol­lar donated to­day vs a Dol­lar donated to­mor­row?

BastianMay 3, 2023, 10:56 AM
8 points
4 comments1 min readEA link

Vi­su­al­iza­tions of the sig­nifi­cance—per­sis­tence—con­tin­gency framework

JakobSep 2, 2022, 6:22 PM
27 points
0 comments7 min readEA link

Dy­namic Public Good Pro­vi­sion un­der Time Prefer­ence Hetero­gene­ity: The­ory and Ap­pli­ca­tions to Philanthropy

Global Priorities InstituteAug 1, 2021, 1:13 PM
4 points
0 comments9 min readEA link
(globalprioritiesinstitute.org)

An un­der-ap­pre­ci­ated ob­ser­va­tion about giv­ing now vs later

Robert_WiblinDec 19, 2015, 10:26 PM
13 points
15 comments2 min readEA link

Set up a co-op to donate your rent

Ben Dunn FloresApr 27, 2023, 10:58 AM
47 points
10 comments5 min readEA link

Should Pa­tient Philan­thropists In­vest Differ­ently?

MichaelDickensSep 14, 2022, 8:16 PM
23 points
5 comments19 min readEA link

[Question] What con­sid­er­a­tions in­fluence whether I have more in­fluence over short or long timelines?

kokotajlodNov 5, 2020, 7:57 PM
18 points
0 comments1 min readEA link

New Global Pri­ori­ties In­sti­tute work­ing pa­pers—and an up­dated ver­sion of “The case for strong longter­mism”

Global Priorities InstituteAug 9, 2021, 4:57 PM
46 points
0 comments2 min readEA link

When should an effec­tive al­tru­ist donate?

Global Priorities InstituteAug 31, 2019, 1:39 PM
3 points
0 comments4 min readEA link
(globalprioritiesinstitute.org)

Im­por­tant ideas for pri­ori­tiz­ing am­bi­tious fund­ing opportunities

jhDec 3, 2021, 6:31 PM
42 points
2 comments16 min readEA link

As­set pro­tec­tion strategies

WobblyPanda2May 29, 2023, 9:56 AM
4 points
6 comments2 min readEA link

Neart­er­mists should con­sider AGI timelines in their spend­ing decisions

Tristan CookJul 26, 2022, 5:01 PM
68 points
4 comments4 min readEA link

Mis­sion-cor­re­lated in­vest­ing: Ex­am­ples of mis­sion hedg­ing and ‘lev­er­ag­ing’

jhMar 11, 2022, 9:33 AM
25 points
1 comment7 min readEA link

How Founders Pledge’s Pa­tient Philan­thropy Fund and Global Catas­trophic Risks Fund Work Together

Tom Barnes🔸Dec 9, 2022, 3:36 PM
30 points
1 comment6 min readEA link
(founderspledge.com)

[Question] If EAs Should In­vest, What Should We In­vest In?

Nic Kruus🔸Dec 29, 2023, 2:51 PM
18 points
3 comments3 min readEA link

Giv­ing Later

EvaSep 3, 2019, 7:25 PM
42 points
0 comments4 min readEA link

Giv­ing now cur­rently seems to beat giv­ing later

Peter WildefordJun 18, 2013, 4:00 AM
5 points
1 comment8 min readEA link